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Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules

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On Sep 19, 2015, at 12:35 AM, Thomas Kluyver wrote:

>By the way, I am also upstream for flit, and I'm prepared to help build
>some tooling to use it for distro packaging. I know it will cause some
>inconvenience in the short term because there's infrastructure around
>setup.py packaging, but ultimately I think that having declarative
>metadata should be an advantage.

There have been countless attempts at moving the Python packaging
infrastructure to a declarative syntax over the years.  I remember talking to
Tarek at a Pycon *many* years ago about this.  Maybe this time it'll catch
on. :)

flit doesn't build sdists, so I guess the current toolchain which starts with
.orig.tar.gz won't work with flitted packages.  The README says:

"People may also want a traditional sdist for other reasons, such as Linux
distro packaging. I hope that these problems will diminsh over time."

I'm not sure which problem you hope will diminish!  People wanting traditional
sdists, the problem of Linux distro packaging <wink> or needing sdists for
downstream consumers like Debian.

OTOH, as wheels get more popular for upstream package distributions, I do
think we need a good story for turning wheels into debs.  There's some work
ongoing to turn debs back into wheels:

https://github.com/paulproteus/dirtbike

Cheers,
-Barry

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Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Julien Puydt <julien.puydt@laposte.net> - 2015-09-19 09:00 +0200
  Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Thomas Kluyver <takluyver@fastmail.com> - 2015-09-19 10:00 +0200
    Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Julien Puydt <julien.puydt@laposte.net> - 2015-09-19 10:10 +0200
      Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Thomas Kluyver <takluyver@fastmail.com> - 2015-09-19 13:30 +0200
    Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-09-19 18:40 +0200
      Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Thomas Kluyver <takluyver@fastmail.com> - 2015-09-20 13:10 +0200
        Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-09-24 12:40 +0200
          Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Thomas Kluyver <thomas@kluyver.me.uk> - 2015-09-24 13:20 +0200
            Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-09-26 01:30 +0200
              Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python  modules Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> - 2015-09-26 01:30 +0200
                Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-09-26 02:30 +0200
                Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python  modules Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> - 2015-09-26 05:30 +0200
                Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-09-28 00:30 +0200
                Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python modules Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-09-26 11:40 +0200
                Re: Dealing with flit -- a simplified packaging of python  modules Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> - 2015-09-26 17:20 +0200

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