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Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages (list))

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Hello Andreas,

Am 18.03.24 um 21:15 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> Hi Carsten,
> 
> Am Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 08:18:58AM +0100 schrieb Carsten Schoenert:
>>> The arguments to remove  flask-basicauth looks sensible, can someone confirm ?
>>
>> looking at the upstream situation for flask-basicauth I see no real issues
>> to drop and this package from the archive. This horse is long dead for a
>> long time.
> 
> This sentence looks as if would have been created by autocomplete function.
> Could you please try to rephrase for better understandability?

well, it's getting harder to maintain upstream source that is simply not 
maintained anymore by the original upstream author or group. 
flask-basicauth is one of these cases. The last action by upstream is 
now 8 years old!

https://github.com/jpvanhal/flask-basicauth

There is no feedback from upstream on bug reports since years. I'm 
writing bug reports in such cases sometimes mainly only to show the 
problems we or I have discovered in a hope that other will post than how 
they solved this issue.

And of course also upstream is not reacting on created PRs. I've given 
up to write new and further PRs in such cases, it's a waste of time.

Doing the needed maintenance for such old repositories is often 
difficult and time consuming, e.g. dealing with old build systems or the 
test setup.
I'm primarily a package maintainer not a person that is having fun to 
update or adjust old trees with a 5th possible solution. It's not 
helpful and wise if every distro is doing the same with lots of energy. 
It's not our responsibility to keep every source package alive in the 
archive if upstream has moved away, at least this is my thinking.

We have more and more the problem to manage big transitions like the 
usual Python major updates, or big frameworks like Sphinx, PyTest, 
Django etc. I've spend a lot of time with rather old and not really 
maintained anymore by upstream packages in the past year.
We can't deal with all the challenges that will need some action all 
other the time. But shipping then outdated or not really useful packages 
within a release is not something we should do. Sometimes it's better to 
drop such packages from the archive and shift time and energy to other 
packages.

And to me flask-basicauth is such a package. It's dead Jim!

-- 
Regards
Carsten

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morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-14 07:30 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-14 11:40 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Thomas Goirand <thomas@goirand.fr> - 2024-03-15 08:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-15 11:00 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 10:00 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-15 11:00 +0100
      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2024-03-29 21:20 +0100
        Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Bo YU <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 02:10 +0100
          Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-31 13:40 +0200
            Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) thomas@goirand.fr - 2024-03-31 14:20 +0200
              Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-31 15:20 +0200
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-15 11:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2024-03-15 12:00 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2024-03-15 11:30 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Michael Fladischer <michael@fladi.at> - 2024-03-15 12:20 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 13:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-15 14:30 +0100
      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 15:40 +0100
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      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-05-11 20:50 +0200
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  colorspacious adopted Étienne Mollier <emollier@debian.org> - 2024-03-16 18:50 +0100
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    #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages (list)) Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2024-03-17 08:20 +0100
      Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-18 21:20 +0100
        Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2024-03-19 07:10 +0100
          Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-19 08:50 +0100
    Bug#1066146: morph's abandoned packages (list) Daniele Tricoli <eriol@mornie.org> - 2024-04-08 19:00 +0200
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    Re: Updated package list with packages open for adoption (Was:  morph's abandoned packages (list)) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 12:00 +0100
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