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Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages (list))

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Hi Carsten,

sorry for occupying your time such a long and detailed answer.  I simply had
seen a conflict in your

   I see no real issues to drop
   This horse is long dead

which was surely simply a typo.  I personally agree with the dead horse.

I'm CCing your long explanation to the bug to make sure it has finally
some positive use.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

Am Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 07:06:18AM +0100 schrieb Carsten Schoenert:
> Hello Andreas,
> 
> Am 18.03.24 um 21:15 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> > Hi Carsten,
> > 
> > Am Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 08:18:58AM +0100 schrieb Carsten Schoenert:
> > > > The arguments to remove  flask-basicauth looks sensible, can someone confirm ?
> > > 
> > > looking at the upstream situation for flask-basicauth I see no real issues
> > > to drop and this package from the archive. This horse is long dead for a
> > > long time.
> > 
> > This sentence looks as if would have been created by autocomplete function.
> > Could you please try to rephrase for better understandability?
> 
> well, it's getting harder to maintain upstream source that is simply not
> maintained anymore by the original upstream author or group. flask-basicauth
> is one of these cases. The last action by upstream is now 8 years old!
> 
> https://github.com/jpvanhal/flask-basicauth
> 
> There is no feedback from upstream on bug reports since years. I'm writing
> bug reports in such cases sometimes mainly only to show the problems we or I
> have discovered in a hope that other will post than how they solved this
> issue.
> 
> And of course also upstream is not reacting on created PRs. I've given up to
> write new and further PRs in such cases, it's a waste of time.
> 
> Doing the needed maintenance for such old repositories is often difficult
> and time consuming, e.g. dealing with old build systems or the test setup.
> I'm primarily a package maintainer not a person that is having fun to update
> or adjust old trees with a 5th possible solution. It's not helpful and wise
> if every distro is doing the same with lots of energy. It's not our
> responsibility to keep every source package alive in the archive if upstream
> has moved away, at least this is my thinking.
> 
> We have more and more the problem to manage big transitions like the usual
> Python major updates, or big frameworks like Sphinx, PyTest, Django etc.
> I've spend a lot of time with rather old and not really maintained anymore
> by upstream packages in the past year.
> We can't deal with all the challenges that will need some action all other
> the time. But shipping then outdated or not really useful packages within a
> release is not something we should do. Sometimes it's better to drop such
> packages from the archive and shift time and energy to other packages.
> 
> And to me flask-basicauth is such a package. It's dead Jim!
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Carsten
> 
> 

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morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-14 07:30 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-14 11:40 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Thomas Goirand <thomas@goirand.fr> - 2024-03-15 08:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-15 11:00 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 10:00 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-15 11:00 +0100
      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2024-03-29 21:20 +0100
        Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Bo YU <tsu.yubo@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 02:10 +0100
          Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-31 13:40 +0200
            Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) thomas@goirand.fr - 2024-03-31 14:20 +0200
              Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-31 15:20 +0200
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-03-15 11:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2024-03-15 12:00 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@jelmer.uk> - 2024-03-15 11:30 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Michael Fladischer <michael@fladi.at> - 2024-03-15 12:20 +0100
  Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 13:30 +0100
    Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-15 14:30 +0100
      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 15:40 +0100
        Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-16 01:20 +0100
      Re: morph's abandoned packages (list) Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-05-11 20:50 +0200
        Bug#1065325: morph's abandoned packages (list) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 00:00 +0200
          Bug#1065325: morph's abandoned packages (list) Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-05-12 16:00 +0200
  mkautodoc adopted Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2024-03-15 20:20 +0100
  colorspacious adopted Étienne Mollier <emollier@debian.org> - 2024-03-16 18:50 +0100
  Bug#1066146: morph's abandoned packages (list) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-16 18:50 +0100
    #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages (list)) Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2024-03-17 08:20 +0100
      Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-18 21:20 +0100
        Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2024-03-19 07:10 +0100
          Re: #1066146 RM: flask-basicauth (Re: morph's abandoned packages  (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-19 08:50 +0100
    Bug#1066146: morph's abandoned packages (list) Daniele Tricoli <eriol@mornie.org> - 2024-04-08 19:00 +0200
  Updated package list with packages open for adoption (Was: morph's  abandoned packages (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-28 10:30 +0100
    Re: Updated package list with packages open for adoption (Was:  morph's abandoned packages (list)) Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-03-28 12:00 +0100
    Re: Updated package list with packages open for adoption (Was:  morph's abandoned packages (list)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-03-28 23:10 +0100

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