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Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates

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On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 15:40, tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:58:14PM +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote:
> > Le 23/05/2019 à 19:04, Martijn Verburg a écrit :
> >
> > > What was the difficulty in grabbing the 11.0.3+7 tag directly?
> >
> > The difficulty is the policy that applies to backported packages. A
> > package that is backported from the Debian release n+1 to the release n
> > has to remain upgradable when the system is upgraded. For this to happen
> > the version backported must rank lower than the version in the next
> > release. That's why there are weird suffixes appended to the versions of
> > the backported packages (1.2.3-1~bpo9+1 is lower than 1.2.3-1).
> >
> > Currently Debian Buster has openjdk-11/11.0.3+1-1, so it isn't possible
> > to upload the version 11.0.3+7-1~bpo9+1 to stretch-backports. The only
> > solutions is to either upgrade openjdk-11 in testing to a version higher
> > than 11.0.3+7, or patch the existing version. Since testing is currently
> > frozen and difficult to update until the release of Buster, it leaves
> > only the patch solution.
>
> Emmanuel,
>
> It seems like we need to bring this up with the Release and Security
> teams.  Releasing Buster with mulitple critical open CVEs in the JVM
> isn't a good experience for our users.  My proposal is that we do what
> we need to get 11.0.3-ga-1 into Buster.
>
> From a versioning standpoint, this should work.  Am I missing something?
>
> $ dpkg --compare-versions 11.0.3-ga-1 gt 11.0.3+7-1 && echo "11.0.3-ga-1
> is newer"
> 11.0.3-ga-1 is newer
>

We (AdoptOpenJDK) would really be appreciative of that! We're aiming to get
consistency amongst all of the OpenJDK providers that 'good known GA'
versions are deployed to end users.  I can only apologise for not having
reached out to the Debian community earlier to collaborate.  Appreciate the
efforts being put in here!

Is there anything we can do to help going forward?  OpenJDK upstream has a
pretty good established policy around having the `-ga` suffix added to
versions it would like downstream to take as a formal release.  Is there
anything else that OpenJDK can do to help Debian?  One thing that
AdoptOpenJDK provides is a free test pipeline in it's build farm that could
happily receive the Debian built binary and put it through 100,000+ tests
and see if it matches what other OpenJDK providers are broadly producing,
would that be of interest?

Cheers,
Martijn


>
> Thanks,
> tony
>

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Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-20 12:20 +0200
  Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-20 14:40 +0200
    Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-20 15:10 +0200
      Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2019-05-22 06:20 +0200
        Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-22 12:30 +0200
          Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2019-05-22 16:40 +0200
          Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 22:00 +0200
            Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-27 00:00 +0200
              Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 16:00 +0200
            Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-27 18:50 +0200
    Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-23 18:00 +0200
      Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg@gmail.com> - 2019-05-23 19:10 +0200
        Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-24 00:00 +0200
          Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-24 00:50 +0200
            Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2019-05-25 18:10 +0200
              Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-27 17:10 +0200
              Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-27 18:40 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-28 10:40 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-29 14:20 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-30 00:10 +0200
          Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2019-05-24 15:50 +0200
            Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg@gmail.com> - 2019-05-24 20:30 +0200
              Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 16:10 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-27 18:40 +0200
                debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of stable  OpenJDK updates) Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-28 10:30 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 11:20 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-28 11:30 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Tiago Daitx <tiago.daitx@canonical.com> - 2019-05-29 04:10 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Tiago Daitx <tiago.daitx@canonical.com> - 2019-05-29 04:20 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-29 14:20 +0200
                Re: debian/watch file for OpenJDK (was Re: Debian distributions of  stable OpenJDK updates) Dalibor Topic <dalibor.topic@oracle.com> - 2019-05-29 16:00 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2019-05-30 00:00 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2019-05-30 00:30 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-06-10 11:40 +0200
                Re: Debian distributions of stable OpenJDK updates Martijn Verburg <martijnverburg@gmail.com> - 2019-05-27 12:30 +0200

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