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Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java

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Am 02.10.2017 um 18:35 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg:
> Le 2/10/2017 à 17:51, Markus Koschany a écrit :
> 
>> There is at least one major downside of the current behavior. You
>> completely loose the flexibility to choose that your package is able to
>> run with an older version of libfoo. There is always a strict dependency
>> on the latest version which can be a real hassle if you try to backport
>> packages. Unfortunately we don't have a C/C++ mechanism like symbols
>> files in Java but the answer should not be to enforce a dependency on
>> the latest version.
> 
> Ideally the version used for the resolved dependencies should be the
> ones defined in the pom, such that the packages express the same
> requirements than the Maven artifacts they contain. That would be a less
> strict middle ground.

In my opinion this should have been a new option where users can choose
to opt-in. I find it less than optimal that the behavior of an existing
option was changed without further notice and documentation and now
everyone is expected to cope with the situation.

> Regarding the backports, what the current maven-debian-helper behavior
> really limits is the ability to download a .deb built for sid and
> install it directly in stable.

That would be an interesting feature but I think it is unrelated to the
problem at hand.

 Rebuilding the package for stable is
> still possible with no extra modification, and the resolved dependencies
> will then refer to the versions in stable.

Ok, this is true. But the dependency will be >= the latest version in
backports or stable. This makes it more complicated to use customized
packages. In the end the user is forced to override the strict
dependency in debian/control if he prefers to use an earlier package
version.

Markus

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wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 16:50 +0200
  Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-10 17:50 +0200
    Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-11 19:00 +0200
      Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-13 22:00 +0200
        Re: wanting to join the java team Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> - 2017-07-14 10:00 +0200
        Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 18:00 +0200
          Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-14 20:20 +0200
            Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 22:30 +0200
              Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-16 23:50 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-27 18:00 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-27 18:00 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-07-29 17:00 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-07-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:50 +0200
                Re: wanting to join the java team Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-09-28 18:00 +0200
                Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 01:30 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2017-10-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-03 19:40 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2017-10-02 23:20 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-02 23:50 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 17:40 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-03 19:20 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 17:50 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 19:20 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Carnë Draug <carandraug+dev@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 13:10 +0200
                Re: Review of fairsim, libjtransforms-java and libjlargearray-java Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-10-05 14:40 +0200

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