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Re: Debian package examples for Java software

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Dear all,

Please, don't get me wrong. I'm a long-time Debian user and Open
Source project maintainer. In my own projects I continuously struggle
with the fact that an improvement in one project needs to be taken
over to all the other projects.

If you manage several (free software) projects yourself you may know
this feeling: You try to improve the state of a repository, and you
know you've done it before hence you want to avoid reinventing the
wheel. But now you're unsure where the last place was where you had
your latest and greatest solution (call it, "current best practice").

With that said, I know the tutorials on Debian packaging but I'm
interested in actual, living implementation in popular projects,
because that's where you learn current practices best from. People may
perceive this as rude, but it certainly depends on how harsh or
welcoming you want to be. I learned how to fish years ago, now I want
advice from fishers.

> What I would recommend in 2024 is that you package your software as a
> private .deb — which is fairly straightforward, even if you have
> binary blobs that aren't built during the package build — and then
> install that inside a suitable base debian container image.

I appreciate your advice, Michael. The point is, I didn't plan to come
here to bore people with discussing my infrastructure implementation
strategy. I don't think it belongs here. Using system packaging is
exactly the intermediate step I want to use for going towards a
cloud-native deployment for a nowadays traditionally deployed,
VM-based setup. Intermediate steps are needed in environments that are
reluctant to change. And not getting root-access is one component of
the first equation of that change; having to cope with pre-installed
components on the managed VM is another. But we're leaving the ground
of Debian (and Open Source) here by far.

I had hoped someone would point me to a good example of a popular
project. One that delivers the final JAR, and a Debian maintainer
takes care of packaging only. Maybe because the project doesn't care
about having a Debian package at all. That would cut out the build
part (Maven).

I started my research with Geogebra, didn't find traces in their
GitHub repositories (and it looks like they stopped promoting packages
for Debian at all) and didn't know where to look for the original
packaging code on Salsa. (I found it in the meantime at
https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/geogebra)
The colorpicker project
(https://salsa.debian.org/java-team/colorpicker) seems dead-simple,
but it builds from source. Is that good enough? The last code change
is from 12 years ago.

Thank you for your understanding,
Peter

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Debian package examples for Java software Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@gmx.net> - 2024-09-14 12:10 +0200
  Re: Debian package examples for Java software Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2024-09-14 15:30 +0200
    Re: Debian package examples for Java software Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@gmx.net> - 2024-09-14 18:10 +0200
      Re: Debian package examples for Java software Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2024-09-14 19:10 +0200
        Re: Debian package examples for Java software Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@gmx.net> - 2024-09-14 21:30 +0200
          Re: Debian package examples for Java software Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2024-09-14 22:00 +0200
            Re: Debian package examples for Java software Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-09-14 22:50 +0200
          Re: Debian package examples for Java software "Michael K. Edwards" <m.k.edwards@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 23:30 +0200
            Re: Debian package examples for Java software "Michael K. Edwards" <m.k.edwards@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 00:00 +0200
            Re: Debian package examples for Java software Peter Bittner <peter.bittner@gmx.net> - 2024-09-15 17:10 +0200
              Re: Debian package examples for Java software "Michael K. Edwards" <m.k.edwards@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 18:10 +0200
  Re: Debian package examples for Java software Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> - 2024-09-17 01:30 +0200

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