Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade

From	Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.doc
Subject	Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade
Date	2025-08-03 09:40 +0200
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Hi Justin,

Am 3. August 2025 09:23:23 MESZ schrieb Justin B Rye <justin.byam.rye@gmail.com>:
>Holger Wansing wrote:
>>> needrestart in the default config prompts what should be restarted. 
>>> I doubt intended behaviour of needrestart qualifies as a bug, and 
>>> it's users need to remember they have it.
>> 
>> At some time we had the recommendation, to start the upgrade from virtual console, not from X.
>> Maybe we need that to come back ....
>> 
>> I personally still do it like this.
>
>Unfortunately if this was GNOME's killing-spree mode, being logged in
>"outside" the graphical session wouldn't help, because these days with
>desktop environment processes running as a big mess of independent
>services instead of all being children of a window manager, logind
>doesn't try to distinguish.  Under at least some circumstances (one of
>them being if the option KillUserProcesses is set to "Yes", which has
>at times been the upstream default), restarting GNOME sprays userspace
>with kill signals to ensure no VT logins or cronjobs or detached tmux
>sessions survive.

Wow, this is getting way to complicated for me.
I'm out here...

Holger

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Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Guillermo Torres Zamora <guillermotorres1998@hotmail.es> - 2025-08-01 14:10 +0200
  Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Justin B Rye <justin.byam.rye@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 15:00 +0200
    Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Guillermo Torres Zamora <torreszamoraguillermo@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 17:40 +0200
      Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2025-08-02 16:10 +0200
        Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-08-02 17:20 +0200
          Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> - 2025-08-02 18:10 +0200
        Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Justin B Rye <justin.byam.rye@gmail.com> - 2025-08-02 17:20 +0200
  Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> - 2025-08-03 09:40 +0200
  Re: Bug#1110221: release-notes: Desktop restarts during upgrade Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2025-08-03 15:30 +0200

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