Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers

From	Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers
Date	2024-12-08 18:20 +0100
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On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 05:01:10PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> 2024, ഡിസം 5 2:05:19 AM Lucas Kanashiro <kanashiro@debian.org>:
> > https://debconf24.debconf.org/talks/74-attracting-and-retaining-new-contributors-insights-from-brazil/
> >
> > There was some follow-up discussion in Hacker News after a LWN post about this talk was published:
> >
> > https://lwn.net/Articles/987548/
> > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41599327
> >
> > I think people interested on the subject can get some insights from the above (comments from people not involved in the project; yes, we, people already involved in the project, can be very biased). Also ignore some stupid comments, expected in those public discussions.
> >
> > And yes, this is something that Debian as whole needs to do better.
>
> I want to comment about registering on wiki.debian.org and
> salsa.debian.org specifically.
>
> Can we setup a system for adding to allow list by DD signed emails
> (like how debian.net DNS changes are done)? Possibly for IP address
> allow list too.
>
> This would help a lot during events or for local groups where getting
> a wiki account takes sending an email and waiting.
>
> Now that I think about this idea, this would also help for salsa
> accounts. It takes many days to get a salsa account after an event and
> I usually have to ask them to use another git hosting service till
> that happens.
>
> A DD validating email address and IP address can address the spam
> concern. This will expand people who can authorize new accounts
> hugely. Also reduce load on current admins and wait time for new
> contributors.

[salsa admin hat on]

Yes, this is a good idea and I already thought about having a
distributed approval of accounts. The only missing detail (!) is the
code to make it happen.

Another thing that can be done in the interim, is arranging a schedule
beforehand.  You get all your new contributions to register "at once",
you get me/some admin a list or usernames, and we get those new users
approved in a batch before the next day, or later in the same day
depending on timezones etc.

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Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Robert Chéramy <robert@cheramy.net> - 2024-12-04 17:10 +0100
  Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-04 17:40 +0100
  Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-12-04 19:20 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2024-12-04 20:10 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-06 12:40 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2024-12-08 18:20 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-12-09 18:50 +0100
  Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-05 09:40 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-12-05 22:00 +0100
  Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2024-12-10 09:40 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-10 10:00 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2024-12-10 10:50 +0100
        Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 11:00 +0100
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      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-10 11:20 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-10 14:00 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Gard Spreemann <gspr@nonempty.org> - 2024-12-10 15:00 +0100
    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2024-12-11 04:20 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-11 12:40 +0100
        Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-11 13:00 +0100
          Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-11 13:30 +0100
            Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2024-12-11 13:30 +0100
              Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-12-11 15:30 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2024-12-11 16:10 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2024-12-12 14:40 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-21 03:20 +0100
            Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-11 13:50 +0100
              Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-11 14:00 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-12-11 14:10 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-11 14:10 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Sune Vuorela <nospam@vuorela.dk> - 2024-12-11 14:40 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-12-11 15:10 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-12-11 15:40 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2024-12-11 15:50 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-11 16:10 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-12-11 15:30 +0100
                Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-11 17:00 +0100
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    Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2024-12-12 00:10 +0100
      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-12-12 03:10 +0100
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      Re: Bits from DPL / Feedback on attracting newcomers Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-12-12 07:50 +0100
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