Re: Schlüssel: Brute force

From	Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com>
Newsgroups	de.sci.electronics
Subject	Re: Schlüssel: Brute force
Date	2024-05-10 12:15 +0200
Organization	The fabulous Falk
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On Fri, 10 May 2024 10:58:41 +0200
Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:

> Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 10 May 2024 09:39:50 +0200
> >Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> wrote:
> >
> >> >Bitte benenne einen Vorteil!
> >> 
> >> Es ist VIEL einfacher. Und genau das mögen viele Leute nicht, die
> >> sich in ihrem IPv4-Knowhow mit allen Krücken festklammern als
> >> würde ihr Job daran hängen.
> >
> >Ich dachte mir, dass nichts kommt. 
> 
> Bitte benenne einen Vorteil einer "Next Generation Firewall".

Im Gegensatz zu einer Circuit Based Firewall, die nur Quelladresse,
Zieladresse und Port kennt, ist eine Next Gen Firewall in der Lage, 
IP-Sitzungen zu berücksichtigen, auf Anwendungskontexte oderhalb der
Protokollebene zu filtern und echte Inhaltskontrolle oder
protokollverändernde Operationen durchzuführen.

Der wichtige Punkt ist der mit der Anwendung (application awareness) und
bei polypotenten Ports wie 443 entscheidend. 

Falk D.

-- 
Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com>

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  Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-02 13:09 +0200
    Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-02 14:24 +0200
      Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-04 21:37 +0200
        Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-05 08:17 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 12:12 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 15:29 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 22:39 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-10 13:49 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:31 +0200
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        Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-02 20:13 +0200
          Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-03 07:36 +0200
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              Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-03 09:01 +0000
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-07 22:12 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-08 12:21 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-08 13:31 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 01:36 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Helmut Schellong <var@schellong.biz> - 2024-05-09 17:27 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2024-05-09 17:39 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-10 08:36 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-09 21:03 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-08 11:42 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-08 14:20 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 18:48 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-08 17:12 +0000
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-08 18:43 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-08 17:04 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:54 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-09 08:11 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-09 20:50 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 09:37 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:51 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-09 08:28 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 11:10 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-09 09:57 +0000
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-14 13:47 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-15 09:03 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-15 14:03 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-15 17:39 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:58 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-09 09:25 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-10 09:02 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-10 07:15 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-10 13:51 +0200
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                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-13 14:51 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-13 19:03 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2024-05-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2024-05-13 19:50 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:55 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-09 20:57 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Helmut Schellong <var@schellong.biz> - 2024-05-09 22:59 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 09:38 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-10 15:04 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-10 13:52 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-05-10 12:59 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-10 15:14 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-12 21:26 +0200
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          Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-07 17:20 +0200
            Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-07 22:13 +0200
            Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-08 08:20 +0200
        Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-04 21:49 +0200
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  Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-07 15:33 +0200
    Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-07 15:50 +0200
      Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-08 17:40 +0200
        Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-08 22:31 +0200
          Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 09:59 +0200
            Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 15:36 +0200
              Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-09 20:51 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-09 22:43 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 09:39 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-10 10:13 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 10:58 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-10 12:15 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 13:27 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-10 14:27 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-10 17:59 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-12 21:28 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-05-13 08:50 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-13 10:35 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-13 13:19 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2024-05-13 15:30 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2024-05-13 15:07 +0000
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Falk Dµebbert <falk@duebbert.com> - 2024-05-13 14:47 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2024-05-15 07:50 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-15 09:26 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-15 09:40 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2024-05-15 14:04 +0200
                Re: Schlüssel: Brute force Volker Bartheld <news2024@bartheld.net> - 2024-05-15 17:49 +0200
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