Re: Piping to stdin

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From	Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
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Subject	Re: Piping to stdin
Date	Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:11:28 +0300
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Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 23:24:28 +0300, Phil Carmody wrote:
>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes:
>>> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>>> But do they know that???
>>>
>>> "They" probably don't know it. But let's face it,
>>> nobody really wants to create a file having '-'
>>> filename on purpose. The filename is not descriptive
>>> at all, it would be just an insane choice for anything
>>> useful.
>>>
>>> It could happen by accident, but even that is quite 
>>> unlikely.
>>>
>>> If "they" don't know how to delete it, there is no need
>>> to panic. The file's existence does no harm. "They" can 
>>> always ask for help and someone will tell them how
>>> to get rid of it.
>>>
>>> I guess the stdin convention '-' is decades old.
>>> It was chosen because they had pick something that 
>>> is short and not likely to exist as a real file.
>> 
>> I propose that '|' might have been better - it's even mnemonic.
>
> But, '|' conflicts with the shell pipe character, and would need
> a workaround in some cases. For example,

It's doing something special, why wouldn't you expect to do something
special to make use of it?

Phil
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Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:55 +0000
  Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 14:27 +0000
    Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 00:59 +0000
      Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 03:07 +0000
        Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 03:12 +0000
          Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-14 15:14 +0000
            Re: Piping to stdin "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2023-08-15 12:50 +1000
              Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 04:59 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:15 -0700
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 08:50 +0100
                Dealing with weird filenames (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 08:10 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:34 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:50 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 20:16 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-16 06:34 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 17:39 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:37 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 19:22 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 20:10 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 20:11 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 13:35 -0700
                Re: Piping to stdin Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2023-08-17 13:34 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 14:27 -0700
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:51 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-16 01:37 -0400
                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:14 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-08-15 12:08 -0600
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 09:32 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-16 17:27 +0300
              Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 14:30 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Giovanni <lsodgf0@home.net.it> - 2023-08-15 17:14 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 15:48 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:12 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-15 16:15 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:22 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:26 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-17 14:23 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 15:25 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 17:33 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:32 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:32 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:57 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2023-08-17 13:49 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:15 +0000
                Wrecking a good thing? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-17 14:09 +0000
                Re: Wrecking a good thing? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-18 00:39 +0300
                Re: Wrecking a good thing? (Was: Piping to stdin) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 11:17 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:14 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-17 13:52 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 11:28 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:52 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 13:33 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Oğuz <oguzismailuysal@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:15 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-19 14:48 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:24 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-20 19:21 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-20 21:57 +0100
                What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-20 22:33 +0000
                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0000
                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 02:57 +0000
                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 17:16 +0100
                Re: What language is this? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 19:10 +0000
                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 20:31 +0100
                Re: What language is this? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 20:29 +0000
                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 21:48 +0100
                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-21 06:50 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 21:14 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-20 02:02 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:24 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-15 20:50 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-16 17:11 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-16 15:25 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 19:29 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:49 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 03:20 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 18:33 +0300
      Re: Piping to stdin "Nuno Silva" <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-14 09:45 +0100
  Re: Piping to stdin Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-08-13 21:26 -0600
    Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:24 +0000
      Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 11:29 +0100
        Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 11:28 +0000
          Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:41 +0000
            Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 22:02 +0100
              Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 21:14 +0000

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