Re: Piping to stdin

From	Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
Newsgroups	comp.unix.programmer, comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Piping to stdin
Date	2023-08-17 14:57 +0300
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 23:32:22 +0300
> Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> wrote:
>>Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 16:12:19 -0000 (UTC)
>>> kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) wrote:
>>>>Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>>>> But do they know that???
>>>>
>>>>"They" probably don't know it. But let's face it,
>>>>nobody really wants to create a file having '-'
>>>>filename on purpose. The filename is not descriptive
>>>>at all, it would be just an insane choice for anything
>>>>useful.
>>>
>>> I used to think the same thing about spaces in filenames. Then along came
>>> Windows.
>>
>>Your memory if flawed. Spaces were always allowed in unix
>>filenames. Often used to hide things in plain sight on FTP sites, for
>>example.
>
> Any character from 0-255 is allowed in unix filenames but only an idiot would
> use spaces and non printing characters.
>
>>MS Windows didn't allow spaces until Windows 95.  I remember the Apple
>
> DOS didn't like filenames more than 8 characters long and required a TLA. 
> So what?
>
> It has become a standard in windows to use spaces in filenames no doubt due
> to the hopeless command line interface so there was no necessity to play nice
> with command line tools that by default use whitespace as field seperators.
>
>>had it on my wall at work. Not because I was an Apple fanboi, far
>>from it, but my disdain for all things MS Windows was already
>>entrenched, and I was being forced to use it for the not-the-actual-work
>>part of my job (which was on Sun workstations).
>
> Apple arguably are even worse right now - case aware but case insensitive
> unless you use wildcards on the command line when suddenly case matters again.
> Hopeless.
>
> eg:
> fenris$ touch HELLO
> fenris$ ls hello
> hello
> fenris$ ls H*
> HELLO
> fenris$ ls h*
> ls: h*: No such file or directory

That I didn't know. Wow - if that's an actual interactive session being
quoted, that's frightening. Thanks for reminding me why my installation
of linux on my Apple G5 box wasn't moment too soon. How can people live
with such wrongthink? Stockholm Syndrome?

Mind geboggled,
Phil
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  Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 14:27 +0000
    Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 00:59 +0000
      Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 03:07 +0000
        Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 03:12 +0000
          Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-14 15:14 +0000
            Re: Piping to stdin "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2023-08-15 12:50 +1000
              Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 04:59 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:15 -0700
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 08:50 +0100
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                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:34 +0200
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                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 20:16 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-16 06:34 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 17:39 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:37 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 19:22 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 20:10 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 20:11 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 13:35 -0700
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                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:51 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-16 01:37 -0400
                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:14 +0200
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                Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 09:32 +0100
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              Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 14:30 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Giovanni <lsodgf0@home.net.it> - 2023-08-15 17:14 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 15:48 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:12 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-15 16:15 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:22 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:26 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-17 14:23 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 15:25 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 17:33 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:32 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:32 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:57 +0300
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                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:14 +0000
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                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:20 +0000
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                Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 11:28 +0200
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:52 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 13:33 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Oğuz <oguzismailuysal@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:15 +0300
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                Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:24 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-20 19:21 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-20 21:57 +0100
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                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0000
                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 02:57 +0000
                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 17:16 +0100
                Re: What language is this? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 19:10 +0000
                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 20:31 +0100
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                Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 21:48 +0100
                Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-21 06:50 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 21:14 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-20 02:02 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:24 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-15 20:50 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-16 17:11 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-16 15:25 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 19:29 +0000
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:49 +0300
                Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 03:20 +0100
                Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 18:33 +0300
      Re: Piping to stdin "Nuno Silva" <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-14 09:45 +0100
  Re: Piping to stdin Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-08-13 21:26 -0600
    Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 09:24 +0000
      Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 11:29 +0100
        Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 11:28 +0000
          Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:41 +0000
            Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 22:02 +0100
              Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 21:14 +0000

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