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Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete)

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.theory, comp.ai.philosophy, comp.ai.nat-lang, sci.lang.semantics
Subject Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete)
Date 2020-08-25 12:54 -0700
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olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:
> On 8/25/2020 2:29 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:
>>> On 8/25/2020 12:28 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:
>>>>> On 8/25/2020 10:34 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> writes:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> The abstract model of computation defined by RIP relative addressing
>>>>>>> clearly specifies access to unlimited memory. Your first step in
>>>>>>> seeing that I am correct is understanding RIP relative addressing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly?  How is that clear?
>>>>>
>>>>> An abstract machine having a tape head that can be advanced in 0 to
>>>>> 0x7FFFFFFF increments an unlimited number of times specifies a model
>>>>> of computation that has access to unlimited memory. The technical name
>>>>> for memory addressing based on displacement from the current memory
>>>>> address is relative addressing.
>>>>>
>>>>> RIP relative addressing directly implements this in hardware. The
>>>>> abstract model of computation specified by RIP relative addressing
>>>>> allows an unlimited number of 0x7FFFFFFF jumps to higher memory. When
>>>>> a jump is made outside of the bounds of installed memory a hardware
>>>>> fault occurs. Hardware faults are not part of any abstract model.
>>>>>
>>>>> That that RIP relative addressing happens to be currently implemented
>>>>> on a 64-bit architecture is an implementation detail that is not a
>>>>> part of the abstract model of computation itself.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I read all that the first N times you posted it.  I'm not
>>>> failing to understand in a way that would be solved by repetition.
>>>> I just disagree.
>>>
>>> Valid disagreement always has a basis provided.
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>>>>>> As far as I can tell, all you can reasonably is that relative addressing
>>>>>> doesn't specify a limit.  If you try to do a relative addressing
>>>>>> operation that goes beyond the range of addresses the fixed-width
>>>>>> instruction pointer can hold, there is as far as I know no specification
>>>>>> in the x86 architecture of what happens.  (Or perhaps there is such a
>>>>>> specification.  If so, perhaps you can find it in some document.)
>>>>>
>>>>> To implement the semantics specified by the x86 language would require
>>>>> memory organzied as an unlimited sequence of contiguous 4GB
>>>>> blocks. Absolute addressing modes of the 86 language would then only
>>>>> refer to addresses within the current 4GB block. The concept of a
>>>>> current 4GB block would be analogous to the current location of a
>>>>> Turing Machine tape head.
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not at all the same thing as specifying unlimited memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> The abstract model of computation specified by the language does
>>>>> define unlimited memory. Only the physical implementations of this
>>>>> abstract model place limits on memory access.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would a specification for a real-world CPU specify unlimited memory
>>>>>> when no actual hardware has unlimited memory?
>>>>>
>>>>> RIP relative addressing is a key example of this. Code written for the
>>>>> RIP relative addressing model will run exactly the same on every
>>>>> memory architecture that supports it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we suddenly have a technical breakthrough such that googleplex
>>>>> sized RAM chips can be produced RIP relative addressing machine code
>>>>> would run from this RAM unmodified.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you cite some x86 document that *actually says* anything about
>>>>>> access to unlimited memory?  I'm asking for something other than your
>>>>>> infererence of unlimited memory from the lack of a specified limit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look into RIP relative addressing as a simpler way of understanding
>>>>> the same thing that I am saying.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand it would be convenient *for you* if the "x86 language"
>>>>>> specified access to unlimited memory.  That doesn't imply that it does.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will make my Halting Problem refutation provided as x86 code have
>>>>> much higher credibility and complete applicability to actual Turing
>>>>> Machines.
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, this would all be irrelevant if you simply stated that, for your
>>>>>> purposes, you were working with an extended x86 that allows for
>>>>>> unlimited memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, not at all. As long as it is understood that the abstract
>>>>> model of computation defined by the x86 language is fully Turing
>>>>> Complete physical implementations of this model that are not fully
>>>>> Turing complete would still be understood to be totally applicable.
>>>>>
>>>>> We might for example create a higher level language defined in terms
>>>>> of 32-bit signed RIP relative addressing that is itself 100% Turing
>>>>> Complete and then translate this higher level language into specific
>>>>> hardware platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any such program needing less that 4GB RAM would run on existing
>>>>> 32-bit platforms. Any such program needing less than 1.0 TB of RAM
>>>>> would run on existing 64-bit platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> The key advantage of this is that theory of computation concepts can
>>>>> be empirically validated concretely using a much higher level
>>>>> abstraction. The "C" programming language could be mapped to such a
>>>>> 32-bit signed RIP relative addressing model such that Turing complete
>>>>> machines could be written directly in "C".
>>>>
>>>> Your interpretation of somebody's web page describing the x86 JMP
>>>> instruction is that it implies access to unlimited memory.  Since I have
>>>> asked you several times to cite some document that states that same
>>>> conclusion and you have failed to do so, I conclude that you cannot.
>>>
>>> http://datasheets.chipdb.org/Intel/x86/Pentium/24143004.PDF
>>
>> Great, that's actually a document from Intel.  I wonder why you couldn't
>> have cited that earlier when I asked you to.
>>
>>> page 25-192
>>>
>>> E9 cd JMP rel32 1 Jump near, displacement relative to next
>>> instruction
>>
>> IF instruction = relative JMP (* i.e. operand is rel8, rel16, or rel32 *)
>> THEN
>>   EIP ← EIP + rel8/16/32;
>>   IF OperandSize = 16
>>   THEN EIP ← EIP AND 0000FFFFH;
>>   FI;
>> FI;
>>
>> A relative JMP is defined in terms of its effect on EIP, which is
>> specifed in that document as a 32-bit register.  This directly
>> contradicts your claim.
>>
>>> I said it is common knowledge and every source agrees that it is a
>>> verified fact.
>>
>> No source that you've cited says that x86 can access unlimited memory.
>> This one in particular seems clear that a relative JMP cannot do so.
>>
>> Is that a good enough basis for valid disagreement?
>>
>>> This is a 1995 manual thus 32-bit architecture.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors#Original_Pentium
>>>
>>>>   From https://c9x.me/x86/html/file_module_x86_id_147.html :
>>>>
>>>>       A relative offset (rel8, rel16, or rel32) is generally specified as
>>>>       a label in assembly code, but at the machine code level, it is
>>>>       encoded as a signed 8-, 16-, or 32-bit immediate value. This value
>>>>       is added to the value in the EIP register. (Here, the EIP register
>>>>       contains the address of the instruction following the JMP
>>>>       instruction).
>>>>
>>>> The EIP register is 64 bits.  That's part of the x86 architecture.  The
>>>> source you cite contradicts your claim.
>>>
>>> You are confusing the 32-bit EIP register with the 64-bit RIP register.
>>
>> Quite possibly.  In any case, the instruction pointer has a fixed width
>> (whatever it is) and can only point to one of a finite number of memory
>> locations.
>>
>>>> Now if you want to assume an x86-like architecture that can access
>>>> unlimited memory, that's fine.
>
> I have switched gears now.
> I have a much more effective approach.
>
> To make the abstract model of computation implied by RIP relative
> addressing code have Turing complete memory access for both code and
> data we merely fail to assume any specific size of the instruction
> pointer.
>
> The abstract model of computation itself does not assume that the RIP
> register is 64-bits. Details such as this are not actually required
> for instruction pointer relative addressing.
>
> Because we know that the generic instruction pointer relative
> addressing model of computation is Turing complete any "C" code that
> could be translated into this model would also be Turing complete.

That *almost* sounds like an admission that you were wrong.

Is it?  If so, will you acknowledge the time and effort I and others
have spent convincing you of that?  Do you finally realize that the
sources you've cited in support of your claims actually contradict them?

Will you acknowledge that what you call "The abstract model of
computation" is not something that follows from the x86 architecture,
but that you've invented yourself?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-09 01:32 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-08 19:49 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-09 02:25 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-08 21:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-08 23:13 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-09 17:27 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-09 12:06 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-09 21:57 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-09 16:30 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:44 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-09 17:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-10 00:16 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-09 20:27 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-10 03:08 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-09 21:35 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-10 15:02 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-10 10:19 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-10 16:42 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based Turing machine) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-10 11:49 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based Turing machine) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-11 00:35 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-10 18:49 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-10 18:52 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-10 18:58 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35 (Semantically Incorrect Defined) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-11 03:49 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-11 15:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-11 22:16 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-11 16:32 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 14:53 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-11 17:50 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 00:53 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-11 20:04 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-11 21:25 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 22:56 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 13:40 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 09:49 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Kaz Kylheku <793-849-0957@kylheku.com> - 2020-08-12 16:47 +0000
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 12:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Kaz Kylheku <793-849-0957@kylheku.com> - 2020-08-12 18:25 +0000
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 14:45 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 15:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 17:23 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 21:36 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 15:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 23:00 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 17:40 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 01:21 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 19:54 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 18:36 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 21:01 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 04:25 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 22:39 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 02:56 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 10:48 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 10:51 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 12:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 12:03 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 14:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 22:02 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 11:50 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 10:40 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 20:38 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 14:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 23:17 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 09:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 22:23 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 15:56 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 14:28 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 17:08 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 17:58 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 20:14 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 21:03 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 23:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 00:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-14 23:35 +0000
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 22:56 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Decidability) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 18:34 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 16:47 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 15:02 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 17:18 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 00:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 10:06 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 22:33 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 00:01 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 22:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 13:50 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 03:00 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V35? (Gödel) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 10:56 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 20:48 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-11 22:37 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:48 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 00:28 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 23:14 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 08:23 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 01:35 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 09:28 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 08:40 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 09:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 09:00 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 10:24 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 09:46 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 11:38 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 16:04 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 10:30 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-12 22:51 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 17:08 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 00:39 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 19:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 04:11 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-12 22:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 00:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 11:16 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 10:44 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:34 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 12:46 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 14:09 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 20:46 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 15:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 23:41 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 21:00 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 11:05 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 14:50 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 22:47 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 16:54 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-13 23:44 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 21:11 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 11:29 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-14 12:34 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 13:59 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-14 16:41 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 12:10 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 00:48 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 19:34 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 02:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 23:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 17:49 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 14:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 22:34 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 16:49 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V38 (x86 is Turing Complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 23:40 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-14 21:27 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-15 12:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (X86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 09:13 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 17:25 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 12:07 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 20:31 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-15 13:38 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 14:52 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-15 21:23 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 22:05 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-16 00:33 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 02:07 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-15 16:04 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V39 (x86 is Turing Complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 13:28 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 15:14 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 18:23 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 16:26 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V36 (x86 based UTM) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-13 18:44 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-14 17:54 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 01:05 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 00:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 20:22 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 16:06 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-15 22:59 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 17:45 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 02:36 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-15 21:07 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 13:23 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 10:46 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 17:41 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 12:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 20:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 14:33 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 20:52 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V40 (x86 is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 15:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V40 (x86 is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-16 22:23 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 16:44 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-17 00:07 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 18:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-17 00:44 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 10:20 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-17 09:35 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 12:16 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 10:53 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 13:21 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-17 12:19 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 16:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] Kaz Kylheku <793-849-0957@kylheku.com> - 2020-08-17 18:12 +0000
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 13:43 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 16:58 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 00:06 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 16:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 14:49 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 17:40 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 17:08 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 20:19 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 20:47 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 23:34 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 22:47 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 01:52 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-24 00:30 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 10:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-24 11:40 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 13:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-24 13:23 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 16:02 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-24 20:30 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 09:34 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-25 08:56 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 10:34 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-25 09:59 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 12:00 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-25 12:39 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] ROOKIE MISTAKE olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 14:37 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V42 [x86 is Turing complete] olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-17 20:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 16:01 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-16 18:13 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-20 19:58 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 00:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-21 11:20 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 09:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-21 12:17 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 13:46 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-21 14:14 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 16:27 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V46 (x86 Turing is complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-22 01:10 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 19:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-22 03:06 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 21:19 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 19:47 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 22:00 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-21 20:12 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 22:22 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-21 22:19 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-22 11:28 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-22 10:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-22 22:24 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-22 17:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-22 23:36 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-22 18:32 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-23 02:04 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-22 22:42 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 00:03 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-23 13:00 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 08:51 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V37 (Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-23 16:42 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 11:33 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-23 22:14 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 16:47 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-24 01:38 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 21:27 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 21:22 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-23 23:54 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 00:05 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 18:18 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-25 01:59 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 20:21 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-24 21:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-25 03:54 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 01:38 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-25 03:37 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 09:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 08:34 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 11:06 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 10:28 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 12:51 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-25 12:30 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 13:50 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 12:50 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 15:14 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 12:29 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 14:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 12:54 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 15:27 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 13:38 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 16:36 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-25 23:35 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 18:01 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-25 17:07 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 20:07 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 16:32 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 15:40 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 18:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 17:31 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 19:52 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 03:37 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-25 22:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 12:58 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 09:38 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 17:36 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 12:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 20:43 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 15:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 22:40 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Alan Smaill <smaill@SPAMinf.ed.ac.uk> - 2020-08-26 18:28 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 12:36 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 19:41 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 14:03 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 21:17 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 15:42 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-26 22:37 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 16:47 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 15:41 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 18:15 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-26 17:32 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 19:59 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (Chris Rock Speaks for God) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-26 20:18 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 10:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 10:20 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 10:25 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 09:39 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 11:25 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 10:42 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 11:59 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 11:45 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-28 17:52 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 12:08 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 11:19 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-28 12:50 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-28 22:34 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-29 03:06 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 08:27 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-29 07:44 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 09:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-29 08:58 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 10:12 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-08-30 07:38 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V51 (Turing Equivalent) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 11:11 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 10:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V47 (x86 really is Turing complete) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-29 17:47 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 12:32 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 14:01 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-29 20:03 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 14:48 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-29 21:35 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 16:00 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-29 23:32 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 18:20 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-30 02:24 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 21:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-29 23:15 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-29 22:57 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-29 22:13 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2020-08-29 23:27 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 03:27 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 16:26 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-29 23:53 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 18:33 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-30 02:35 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-29 21:36 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V50 (Can "C" be made Turing complete?) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-30 15:38 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V51 (Making "C" Turing equivalent) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 11:42 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V51 (Making "C" Turing equivalent) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-30 20:05 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V51 (Making "C" Turing equivalent) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 14:17 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 14:37 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 13:10 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 15:19 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 14:22 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-30 16:58 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-31 02:48 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-31 02:08 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-31 09:49 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-31 13:59 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-08-31 16:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-31 15:24 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-31 19:26 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-31 21:37 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-08-31 23:56 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-08-31 23:10 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-01 02:28 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-09-01 02:02 +0000
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-01 03:16 +0100
                Re: Simply defining G"odel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2020-09-01 02:29 +0000
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-08-31 08:58 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (Machine equivalence) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-01 00:04 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-02 09:55 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-02 12:03 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2020-09-03 06:12 -0600
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 09:46 -0500
                Re: Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2020-09-03 14:23 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2020-09-03 21:28 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 16:51 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2020-09-03 23:20 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 17:31 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2020-09-04 01:56 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 20:15 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 20:29 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2020-09-04 02:47 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 21:08 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 03:52 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 22:15 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 22:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 05:14 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 23:37 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 15:28 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 16:16 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-03 16:13 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 12:05 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 02:50 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 22:02 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 05:05 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-03 23:42 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 11:48 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-04 08:41 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 17:04 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-04 11:36 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 22:29 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-09-04 14:42 -0700
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-04 22:53 +0100
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2020-09-04 17:51 -0500
                Re: Simply defining Gödel Incompleteness and Tarski Undefinability away V52 (HP refutation Sufficiency Specs) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-09-05 02:25 +0100

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