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  Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-15 16:10 -0400
    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 16:26 -0400
    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-15 21:32 +0000
      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 11:36 -0400
        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 15:54 +0000
          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 12:10 -0400
            Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 16:23 +0000
              Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 13:16 -0400
                Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 17:27 +0000
                  Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 13:42 -0400
                    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 13:59 -0400
                    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-16 20:30 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:37 -0400
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 20:50 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-17 13:03 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 17:23 -0400
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 21:41 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-17 13:05 +0000
                Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 13:30 -0400
                  Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 17:43 +0000
                    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 14:07 -0400
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-16 14:14 -0400
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 14:27 -0400
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 19:37 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:18 -0400
                          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 20:27 +0000
                            Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:38 -0400
                              Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 20:51 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 19:59 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2017-04-16 16:24 -0400
                          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 20:35 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 17:20 -0400
                          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 21:39 +0000
                            Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 17:50 -0400
                              Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-16 22:10 +0000
                              Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-17 13:13 +0000
                  Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-16 20:32 +0000
                    Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 17:48 -0400
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-04-16 16:53 -0700
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2017-04-16 20:37 -0500
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-04-16 22:24 -0400
                          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-17 02:42 +0000
                        Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-17 13:10 +0000
                          Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-17 16:29 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-17 13:08 +0000
                      Re: Remote Devices and iTunes Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-17 16:28 +0000

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#104506

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster trolls too
> because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy in their tear down of
> the MacPro 2013.

"Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."

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#104512

On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <elhoqcFmn4lU1@mid.individual.net>):

> JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
> >
> > And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster trolls too
> > because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy in their tear down of
> > the MacPro 2013.
>
> "Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."

referring to the new Mac Pros as the ‘Soda Can’ Mac Pros is being 
descriptive, not trolling. They look like large soda cans. Large, very 
expensive, soda cans which lack space for storage. There would be a reason 
why they’ll pry my old cheese grater Mac Pro out of my cold, dead hands.

You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet of Jony 
Ive. The soda can Mac Pros were a mistake. Apple is, allegedly, going to 
replace them with a new design in two-three years, not that I’m holding my 
breath waiting.

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#104513

In article
<0001HW.1EA3EA6C007B9F31700008C572CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:

> The soda can Mac Pros were a mistake. Apple is, allegedly, going to 
> replace them with a new design in two-three years, not that I¹m holding my 
> breath waiting.

apple didn't say 2-3 years.

they said 'not this year'. 

it's far too early to commit to any time frame, especially if they're
relying on intel's schedules.

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#104514

On 2017 Apr 16, nospam wrote
(in article<160420171414513417%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

> In article
> <0001HW.1EA3EA6C007B9F31700008C572CF@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> > The soda can Mac Pros were a mistake. Apple is, allegedly, going to
> > replace them with a new design in two-three years, not that I¹m holding my
> > breath waiting.
>
> apple didn't say 2-3 years.
>
> they said 'not this year'.

correct. Some people have estimated the arrival to be 2019-2020 or so. Others 
say 2018. One deluded in-duh-vidual gushed about December this year. I go 
with the more rational people: 2-3 years. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
>
>
> it's far too early to commit to any time frame, especially if they're
> relying on intel's schedules.

okay. I could see that point of view, too.

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#104523

On 2017-04-16, Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <elhoqcFmn4lU1@mid.individual.net>):
>> JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
>>
>>> And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster trolls
>>> too because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy in their
>>> tear down of the MacPro 2013.
>>
>> "Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."
>
> referring to the new Mac Pros as the ‘Soda Can’ Mac Pros is being
> descriptive, not trolling.

It's obviously both. You're just joining in on the juvenile "fun". More
importantly, JF Mezei makes it a *consistent* practice to sling that
name as well as other juvenile derogatory names around whenever he
refers to them. In fact, go ahead and show me a post from JF Mezei
referring to the newer model Mac Pros *without* resorting to such
juvenile antics. Pssst: I already know you can't. : )

> You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet of
> Jony Ive.

Time to eat your own words: "Your bias is showing."

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#104538

On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <elhvevFnsd6U1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> > (in article <elhoqcFmn4lU1@mid.individual.net>):
> > > JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster trolls
> > > > too because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy in their
> > > > tear down of the MacPro 2013.
> > >
> > > "Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."
> >
> > referring to the new Mac Pros as the ‘Soda Can’ Mac Pros is being
> > descriptive, not trolling.
>
> It's obviously both.

nope.
> You're just joining in on the juvenile "fun"

nah.
> . More
> importantly, JF Mezei makes it a *consistent* practice to sling that
> name as well as other juvenile derogatory names around whenever he
> refers to them.

wipe the foam off your mouth

> In fact, go ahead and show me a post from JF Mezei
> referring to the newer model Mac Pros *without* resorting to such
> juvenile antics. Pssst: I already know you can't. : )

still foaming
>
>
> > You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet of
> > Jony Ive.
>
> Time to eat your own words: "Your bias is showing."

in what way? Be specific.

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#104544

On 2017-04-16, Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <elhvevFnsd6U1@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
>>> (in article <elhoqcFmn4lU1@mid.individual.net>):
>>>> JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster
>>>>> trolls too because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy
>>>>> in their tear down of the MacPro 2013.
>>>>
>>>> "Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."
>>>
>>> referring to the new Mac Pros as the ‘Soda Can’ Mac Pros is being
>>> descriptive, not trolling.
>>
>> It's obviously both.
>
> nope.

Yup.

>> You're just joining in on the juvenile "fun"
>
> nah.

Yep.

>> . More importantly, JF Mezei makes it a *consistent* practice to
>> sling that name as well as other juvenile derogatory names around
>> whenever he refers to them.
>
> wipe the foam off your mouth

Right after you wipe the foam off yours.

>> In fact, go ahead and show me a post from JF Mezei referring to the
>> newer model Mac Pros *without* resorting to such juvenile antics.
>> Pssst: I already know you can't. : )
>
> still foaming

As are you. : )

>>> You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet
>>> of Jony Ive.
>>
>> Time to eat your own words: "Your bias is showing."
>
> in what way? Be specific.

Think for yourself. Try hard.

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#104552

On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <eli2doFogunU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> > (in article <elhvevFnsd6U1@mid.individual.net>):
> >
> > > On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
> > > > On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> > > > (in article <elhoqcFmn4lU1@mid.individual.net>):
> > > > > JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And I suspect Joly/lewis will have to call iFixit FUDster
> > > > > > trolls too because this is where I saw the "Soda Can" analogy
> > > > > > in their tear down of the MacPro 2013.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Trolling is okay if other trolls do it."
> > > >
> > > > referring to the new Mac Pros as the ‘Soda Can’ Mac Pros is being
> > > > descriptive, not trolling.
> > >
> > > It's obviously both.
> >
> > nope.
>
> Yup.
>
> > > You're just joining in on the juvenile "fun"
> >
> > nah.
>
> Yep.
>
> > > . More importantly, JF Mezei makes it a *consistent* practice to
> > > sling that name as well as other juvenile derogatory names around
> > > whenever he refers to them.
> >
> > wipe the foam off your mouth
>
> Right after you wipe the foam off yours.
>
> > > In fact, go ahead and show me a post from JF Mezei referring to the
> > > newer model Mac Pros *without* resorting to such juvenile antics.
> > > Pssst: I already know you can't. : )
> >
> > still foaming
>
> As are you. : )
>
> > > > You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet
> > > > of Jony Ive.
> > >
> > > Time to eat your own words: "Your bias is showing."
> >
> > in what way? Be specific.
>
> Think for yourself. Try hard.

and you’ve retreated to all-out trolldom.

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#104560

On 2017-04-16, Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <eli2doFogunU1@mid.individual.net>):
>> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
>>> (in article <elhvevFnsd6U1@mid.individual.net>):
>>>> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> You really need to get out more and to stop worshiping at the feet
>>>>> of Jony Ive.
>>>>
>>>> Time to eat your own words: "Your bias is showing."
>>>
>>> in what way? Be specific.
>>
>> Think for yourself. Try hard.
>
> and you’ve retreated to all-out trolldom.

Pot, meet hypocritical kettle. : )

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#104530

On 2017-04-16, Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[trollish ramblings about juvenile names omitted]

> Large

That's a lie. The new models are actually much smaller and lighter than
previous Mac Pro models. They can easily sit on desks that wouldn't
accommodate the larger former models.

> very expensive

Sure, sure. Meanwhile, those of us who have owned Mac Pros from the
beginning know well that Mac Pros have always been relatively expensive.

Also the new models consume less energy, which makes the cost of running
them *less* expensive than with previous models.

> which lack space for storage

Vocal minorities aside, the lack of extra internal storage space is
simply not a problem for many professionals. Many of us already store
our large files on external / networked RAID arrays anyway. This isn't
the supposed "show stopper" the fringe complainers make it out to be.

> There would be a reason why they’ll pry my old cheese grater Mac Pro
> out of my cold, dead hands.

I haven't upgraded from my Mac Pro tower either, but not for most of the
bogus reasons you list above. I have no problem spending a good bit of
money for a beefy, fast workstation that I'll end up using for the next
five to eight years. Whether it happens to be heavy doesn't play a big
part in my purchasing decision either (thought lighter is always
better). The same goes for whether it has internal storage expansion,
since I already store my large content elsewhere externally.

There are only two things holding me back from replacing my current
Mac Pro tower with a newer model at the moment: 

1. After upgrading the RAM, GPU, and switching to an SSD, my current Mac
Pro tower is *quite* speedy, even today. It's not quite gotten to the
point where I am regularly yearning for more speed. It's got more life
left in it.

2. The new models don't have upgradable GPU options, which is one of the
things that can extend the life of the machine. I'm hopeful that Apple's
upcoming redesign will bring back GPU expandability. 

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#104543

On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <eli0pgFnsd6U2@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> [trollish ramblings about juvenile names omitted]
>
> > Large
>
> That's a lie.

no, it’s not. They’re 10 inches tall and 6+ wide. That’s large.
> The new models are actually much smaller and lighter than
> previous Mac Pro models. They can easily sit on desks that wouldn't
> accommodate the larger former models.
>
> > very expensive
>
> Sure, sure. Meanwhile, those of us who have owned Mac Pros from the
> beginning know well that Mac Pros have always been relatively expensive.

yes, but older ones could be expanded.
>
>
> Also the new models consume less energy, which makes the cost of running
> them *less* expensive than with previous models.
>
> > which lack space for storage
>
> Vocal minorities aside, the lack of extra internal storage space is
> simply not a problem for many professionals.

it’s a problem for _me_. I’m one of the ‘vocal minority’ who will 
simply never buy a trashcan Mac Pro in very large part because they have 
limited internal storage.

> Many of us already store
> our large files on external / networked RAID arrays anyway. This isn't
> the supposed "show stopper" the fringe complainers make it out to be.

it is for me. No internal storage? My credit card stays in my wallet.
>
>
> > There would be a reason why they’ll pry my old cheese grater Mac Pro
> > out of my cold, dead hands.
>
> I haven't upgraded from my Mac Pro tower either, but not for most of the
> bogus reasons you list above. I have no problem spending a good bit of
> money for a beefy, fast workstation that I'll end up using for the next
> five to eight years. Whether it happens to be heavy doesn't play a big
> part in my purchasing decision either (thought lighter is always
> better). The same goes for whether it has internal storage expansion,
> since I already store my large content elsewhere externally.

good for you. Some of us prefer to keep our data local.
>
>
> There are only two things holding me back from replacing my current
> Mac Pro tower with a newer model at the moment:
>
> 1. After upgrading the RAM, GPU, and switching to an SSD, my current Mac
> Pro tower is *quite* speedy, even today. It's not quite gotten to the
> point where I am regularly yearning for more speed. It's got more life
> left in it.
>
> 2. The new models don't have upgradable GPU options, which is one of the
> things that can extend the life of the machine. I'm hopeful that Apple's
> upcoming redesign will bring back GPU expandability.

don’t hold your breath waiting.

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#104550

On 2017-04-16, Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2017 Apr 16, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <eli0pgFnsd6U2@mid.individual.net>):
>> On 2017-04-16, Wolffan<AKWolffan@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> [trollish ramblings about juvenile names omitted]
>>
>> > Large
>>
>> That's a lie.
>
> no, it’s not. They’re 10 inches tall and 6+ wide. That’s large.

Yes it's a lie. Not only were previous Mac Pro towers are 20 inches
tall, 20 inches deep, and 8 inches wide (hint: *much* larger), but the
new model Mac Pro is much smaller than *most* PC towers on the market.
Time to eat your words again: "Your bias is showing".

>> The new models are actually much smaller and lighter than previous
>> Mac Pro models. They can easily sit on desks that wouldn't
>> accommodate the larger former models.
>>
>>> very expensive
>>
>> Sure, sure. Meanwhile, those of us who have owned Mac Pros from the
>> beginning know well that Mac Pros have always been relatively
>> expensive.
>
> yes

It's good you can admit your bullshit line was bullshit.

>> Also the new models consume less energy, which makes the cost of
>> running them *less* expensive than with previous models.
>>
>>> which lack space for storage
>>
>> Vocal minorities aside, the lack of extra internal storage space is
>> simply not a problem for many professionals.
>
> it’s a problem for _me_. I’m one of the ‘vocal minority’

Yes, and in the minority you will stay. Meanwhile the rest of the
professional world has no problem with lack of internal storage
expansion.

>> Many of us already store our large files on external / networked RAID
>> arrays anyway. This isn't the supposed "show stopper" the fringe
>> complainers make it out to be.
>
> it is for me. No internal storage? My credit card stays in my wallet.

Precious! : ) 

>> There are only two things holding me back from replacing my current
>> Mac Pro tower with a newer model at the moment:
>>
>> 1. After upgrading the RAM, GPU, and switching to an SSD, my current
>> Mac Pro tower is *quite* speedy, even today. It's not quite gotten to
>> the point where I am regularly yearning for more speed. It's got more
>> life left in it.
>>
>> 2. The new models don't have upgradable GPU options, which is one of
>> the things that can extend the life of the machine. I'm hopeful that
>> Apple's upcoming redesign will bring back GPU expandability.
>
> don’t hold your breath waiting.

I have no problem waiting. Note: I'm not the one complaining. That'd be
you. Are you done foaming at the mouth yet? : )

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#104578

On 2017-04-16 15:59, Jolly Roger wrote:

> 1. After upgrading the RAM, GPU, and switching to an SSD, my current Mac
> Pro tower is *quite* speedy, even today

And won't be getting any new OS releases.

And when you MacPro fails (as mine did), you are stuck replacing it with
whatever is available from Apple.

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#104589

On 2017-04-16, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-04-16 15:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> 1. After upgrading the RAM, GPU, and switching to an SSD, my current Mac
>> Pro tower is *quite* speedy, even today
>
> And won't be getting any new OS releases.

I'm running El Capitan, which is still receiving security updates. And I
could run Sierra on it if I wanted. This is not a problem for the next
couple years, at which point I may replace it.

> And when you MacPro fails (as mine did), you are stuck replacing it with
> whatever is available from Apple.

No, I'm not limited to buying a new Mac Pro at all. I could easily
repair components on it myself, which I've already done. I can find
parts rather cheaply for it online. I could buy a 2008-2009 Mac Pro for
a couple hundred bucks online too. 

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#104592

On 2017-04-16 17:39, Jolly Roger wrote:

> I'm running El Capitan, which is still receiving security updates. And I
> could run Sierra on it if I wanted. 

Sierra not supported on 2009 or older machines.

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#104597

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-04-16 17:39, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
>> I'm running El Capitan, which is still receiving security updates. And I
>> could run Sierra on it if I wanted. 
> 
> Sierra not supported on 2009 or older machines.

Not a problem for me. Apple's not stopping me from running it if I see fit.
And I'd get all of the updates Apple puts out for Sierra as well.

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#104627

In message <58f3e71d$0$12876$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-04-16 17:39, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> I'm running El Capitan, which is still receiving security updates. And I
>> could run Sierra on it if I wanted. 

> Sierra not supported on 2009 or older machines.

And yet, many people are able to get it to run just fine. All you need
is a bootloader.

But yes, it is not supported. It does work.

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#104549

In message <58f3aa32$0$56144$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-04-16 13:16, Wolffan wrote:

>> the thing is: he wasn’t trolling in his initial post. It was silly, it was 
>> incoherent, but it wasn’t trolling. 

> How is asking how to import a CD into iTunes from an optical drive on a
> different machine silly ?

First of all, we've already been through this with you a year or two ago
when you posted this same basic post and then descended into your usual
blithering idiocy when you were told that you could not rip audio CDs
via the "Remote Disc" function in OS X.

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#104591

On 2017-04-16 16:32, Lewis wrote:

> First of all, we've already been through this with you a year or two ago
> when you posted this same basic post 

Remembering everything I post = STALKING.

It was June 2016 when my origina Pro dies and I had to buy new one
without optical drive. I may have asked generic question about optical
drives, but I had never tried/tested "remote devices" on OS-X so
couldn't have asked about it.

Since I probably have spend more on Apple equipment sicne 1986 than you
have in your lifetime, it is quite gratuitous of you to call me a troll.

Are you paid by Microsoft ?

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#104605

On 2017-04-16 2:48 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2017-04-16 16:32, Lewis wrote:
>
>> First of all, we've already been through this with you a year or two ago
>> when you posted this same basic post
>
> Remembering everything I post = STALKING.

No. It equals HAVING A DECENT MEMORY.

>
> It was June 2016 when my origina Pro dies and I had to buy new one
> without optical drive. I may have asked generic question about optical
> drives, but I had never tried/tested "remote devices" on OS-X so
> couldn't have asked about it.

So you're simultaneously arguing that he remembered what you posted...

...and that you didn't post it.

>
> Since I probably have spend more on Apple equipment sicne 1986 than you
> have in your lifetime, it is quite gratuitous of you to call me a troll.
>
> Are you paid by Microsoft ?
>

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