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| Started by | "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| First post | 2017-03-08 08:44 +0000 |
| Last post | 2017-03-12 23:19 -0400 |
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Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-08 08:44 +0000
Re: Mac Malware android <here@there.was> - 2017-03-08 10:20 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-03-08 10:38 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-08 09:39 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-08 15:07 +0000
Re: Mac Malware michaelunowho@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 14:34 -0800
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 18:22 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-09 23:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 03:23 -0500
Re: Mac Malware android <here@there.was> - 2017-03-10 09:43 +0100
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-11 06:16 -0500
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-13 07:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:24 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-08 11:17 -0500
Re: Mac Malware dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-09 07:43 +1100
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:39 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-10 18:55 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2017-03-09 14:25 -0500
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:31 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 11:44 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 16:45 +0000
Knock-knock (Was: Re: Mac Malware) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:28 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 16:32 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:53 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 11:22 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 13:45 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 19:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 13:41 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 20:05 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 19:39 -0500
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 16:44 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-12 16:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:22 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-13 14:42 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:36 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 09:59 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:04 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:45 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:09 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:48 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-13 11:50 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 22:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:26 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-13 14:06 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-13 14:45 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:38 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:47 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-15 10:18 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 13:21 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:13 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 04:07 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 17:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 06:11 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 07:14 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:49 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-13 15:22 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-13 15:35 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-13 11:50 -0400
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:40 -0400
Re: Mac Malware YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2017-04-03 12:19 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 14:14 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 16:53 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 09:04 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 16:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 17:24 -0700
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-11 12:54 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-11 17:01 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-11 17:21 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-11 23:23 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-12 04:23 -0600
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-10 19:25 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2017-03-10 14:04 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-10 23:24 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-11 13:35 +1100
Re: Mac Malware Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-03-10 19:07 -0800
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 22:11 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 08:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:27 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-03-11 12:13 -0600
Re: Mac Malware Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-03-11 18:16 -0800
Re: Mac Malware befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-13 09:42 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-11 11:38 -0500
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 11:03 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-11 11:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-11 13:55 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-11 14:17 +0000
Re: Mac Malware "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-12 08:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-11 17:58 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-03-11 18:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-12 14:36 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-12 11:34 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-13 22:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-03-16 13:27 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Doc O'Leary <droleary@2017usenet1.subsume.com> - 2017-03-16 19:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-11 23:14 -0500
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-11 23:31 -0500
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-12 23:18 -0400
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-12 23:20 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 14:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-14 09:48 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-15 01:21 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-14 15:19 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:01 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-14 22:13 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:35 -0700
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-14 15:45 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 00:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-15 10:55 -0700
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 00:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-03-15 10:54 -0700
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:43 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-12 16:14 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 16:34 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-12 20:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-12 22:26 +0000
Re: Mac Malware FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-03-13 07:31 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-15 08:31 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 09:59 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-21 18:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-15 15:00 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 14:16 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-17 13:56 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 16:01 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-18 10:17 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 21:53 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:46 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-19 10:48 +1300
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:23 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-18 11:17 -0400
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-19 16:44 +0000
Re: Mac Malware befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-20 11:02 +0100
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 04:01 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 15:30 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:10 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-18 14:56 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-19 16:43 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-19 16:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-17 03:59 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-21 18:57 +0000
Re: Mac Malware nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:06 -0400
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-23 07:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-21 20:42 +0000
Re: Mac Malware dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-23 07:51 +0000
Re: Mac Malware Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-23 05:09 +0000
Re: Mac Malware John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2017-03-12 23:19 -0400
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-12 22:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eim097Fi9coU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102230 |
On 2017-03-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <eilbl2Fe2t5U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2017-03-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>> In message <TW3xA.24187$IX2.5072@fx03.iad> John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> wrote: >>>> I'm going to guess that Apple has come to some agreement >>>> with YouTube (that's google, is it?) to actively block >>>> downloading of content, whether it be through Flash or HTML5. >>> >>> Ridiculous. I download videos from youtube with Safari with no issues at >>> all. > >> Which extension do you use? > > I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster > Tube? > > This looks like it: > ><https://kwizzu.com> Thanks, I'll check it out. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-13 07:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oa5vou$s12$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #102236 |
On 2017-03-12 22:26:47 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said: > On 2017-03-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <eilbl2Fe2t5U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger >> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> On 2017-03-12, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>>> In message <TW3xA.24187$IX2.5072@fx03.iad> John Albert >>>> <j.albert@snet.net> wrote: >>>>> I'm going to guess that Apple has come to some agreement >>>>> with YouTube (that's google, is it?) to actively block >>>>> downloading of content, whether it be through Flash or HTML5. >>>> >>>> Ridiculous. I download videos from youtube with Safari with no issues at >>>> all. >> >>> Which extension do you use? >> >> I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster >> Tube? >> >> This looks like it: >> >> <https://kwizzu.com> > > Thanks, I'll check it out. MovieSherlock has a Safari plug in that you can install that puts a Download button over YouTube videos. Click the D'Load button, and it MovieSherlock opens and downloads the file - usually before the ad has even finished playing. Again... it's not a freebie. It's kind of expensive, but my company paid for it, so it's no skin off my nose. They're nice like that... -- White House: "Don't call it Trumpcare." 3-8-17 "How bad does something have to be, that Donald Trump doesn't want to put his name on it?" -SNL 3-11-17
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 08:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n2vfgt.n7ha2p1vquisyN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102230 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster > Tube? > > This looks like it: > > <https://kwizzu.com> I gave it a quick try. The item I looked at wouldn't load in Safari (happens sometimes) so I didn't properly test the extension. I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the reason something won't show in Safari). I downloaed the Chrome extension, but got told that it was disabled because the extension was not from the Chrome store. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 09:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <150320170959547743%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #102354 |
In article <1n2vfgt.n7ha2p1vquisyN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster > > Tube? > > > > This looks like it: > > > > <https://kwizzu.com> > > I gave it a quick try. The item I looked at wouldn't load in Safari > (happens sometimes) so I didn't properly test the extension. i've never seen a youtube video fail to load in safari. ever. > I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the > reason something won't show in Safari). I downloaed the Chrome > extension, but got told that it was disabled because the extension was > not from the Chrome store. bullshit. youtube doesn't use flash and hasn't for a long time.
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n2z1iu.18y46yai2zj3eN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102360 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <1n2vfgt.n7ha2p1vquisyN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel > Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > > I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster > > > Tube? > > > > > > This looks like it: > > > > > > <https://kwizzu.com> > > > > I gave it a quick try. The item I looked at wouldn't load in Safari > > (happens sometimes) so I didn't properly test the extension. > > i've never seen a youtube video fail to load in safari. ever. I've seen it often. At least the wheel (not pinwheel, I'm not sure how to describe it) keeps spinning and the wording "if playnack doesn't begin shortly, try restarting your device". It always seems to work when I change browser from Safari to Chrome. If anyone knows why this happens and how to correct the issue, I would be glad. Could be some third-party item on my machine causing trouble, of course. > > > I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the > > reason something won't show in Safari). I downloaed the Chrome > > extension, but got told that it was disabled because the extension was > > not from the Chrome store. > > bullshit. youtube doesn't use flash and hasn't for a long time. OK, I wasn't quite accurate about Flash. For some sites (greeting card ones, mostly) I do get told Flash is needed, and then I have to move to Chrome. For YouTube I sometimes get the situation described above, which - as you say - probably has nothing to do with Flash but still means I have to switch browsers. Anyway, my point was that the particular extension (which looks very useful) does not currently work in Chrome, with a specific error message as I said. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 10:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160320171055362437%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #102408 |
In article <1n2z1iu.18y46yai2zj3eN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > > <https://kwizzu.com> > > > > > > I gave it a quick try. The item I looked at wouldn't load in Safari > > > (happens sometimes) so I didn't properly test the extension. > > > > i've never seen a youtube video fail to load in safari. ever. > > I've seen it often. At least the wheel (not pinwheel, I'm not sure how > to describe it) keeps spinning and the wording "if playnack doesn't > begin shortly, try restarting your device". It always seems to work when > I change browser from Safari to Chrome. If anyone knows why this happens > and how to correct the issue, I would be glad. Could be some third-party > item on my machine causing trouble, of course. could be. what you describe is *not* normal and something is wrong with your setup. > > > I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the > > > reason something won't show in Safari). I downloaed the Chrome > > > extension, but got told that it was disabled because the extension was > > > not from the Chrome store. > > > > bullshit. youtube doesn't use flash and hasn't for a long time. > > OK, I wasn't quite accurate about Flash. For some sites (greeting card > ones, mostly) I do get told Flash is needed, and then I have to move to > Chrome. For YouTube I sometimes get the situation described above, which > - as you say - probably has nothing to do with Flash but still means I > have to switch browsers. you could try setting the user agent to ipad to get the mobile version, and if it still wants flash, don't bother. flash is dead and any site that hasn't realized that is not worth the effort. > Anyway, my point was that the particular extension (which looks very > useful) does not currently work in Chrome, with a specific error message > as I said. what did the developer say when you asked why?
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n2zucx.1b31i4f1mn030dN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102416 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > Anyway, my point was that the particular extension (which looks very > > useful) does not currently work in Chrome, with a specific error message > > as I said. > > what did the developer say when you asked why? I didn't ask. Chrome said that it would not install extensions not obtained through their store. Maybe it can be obtained through the store, but the direct link downloads an extension that Chrome does not accept. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160320171848231445%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #102436 |
In article <1n2zucx.1b31i4f1mn030dN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > > Anyway, my point was that the particular extension (which looks very > > > useful) does not currently work in Chrome, with a specific error message > > > as I said. > > > > what did the developer say when you asked why? > > I didn't ask. why not? they most likely know why it didn't work. > Chrome said that it would not install extensions not > obtained through their store. that's a security feature, much like having macos only install apps via the app store. > Maybe it can be obtained through the store, but the direct link > downloads an extension that Chrome does not accept. i don't use chrome, but there's probably a setting to override it.
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-21 18:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n30t5p.7y67jrq8lblsN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102440 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <1n2zucx.1b31i4f1mn030dN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel > Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Anyway, my point was that the particular extension (which looks very > > > > useful) does not currently work in Chrome, with a specific error message > > > > as I said. > > > > > > what did the developer say when you asked why? > > > > I didn't ask. > > why not? they most likely know why it didn't work. Because the reason it did not work was Chrome refusing to allow it to run, as noted. > > > Chrome said that it would not install extensions not > > obtained through their store. > > that's a security feature, much like having macos only install apps via > the app store. > Of course, and that's why it would not work. > > Maybe it can be obtained through the store, but the direct link > > downloads an extension that Chrome does not accept. > > i don't use chrome, but there's probably a setting to override it. Possibly. Downloading videos isn't something I do often, so finding out about overrriding it isn't a priority, though I will check in due course. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 15:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eit37tF8q3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102354 |
Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > >> I'm not on that machine, but I think it is YouTube Downloader? Or Faster >> Tube? >> >> This looks like it: >> >> <https://kwizzu.com> > > I gave it a quick try. The item I looked at wouldn't load in Safari > (happens sometimes) so I didn't properly test the extension. Works fine here. Thanks, Lewis! > I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the > reason something won't show in Safari). Nah! Any time you see a web page that claims Flash is needed, all you have to do is change the user agent (in the Safari "Develop" menu) to any iOS string and the video will "magically" load. There's literally no need to have Flash installed for the overwhelming majority of videos to play. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 08:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n2z1xh.1k489am819oscN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102363 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > I looked at the same video in Chrome (because sometimes Flash is the > > reason something won't show in Safari). > > Nah! Any time you see a web page that claims Flash is needed, all you have > to do is change the user agent (in the Safari "Develop" menu) to any iOS > string and the video will "magically" load. There's literally no need to > have Flash installed for the overwhelming majority of videos to play. Sure. As I said in my other post, the YouTube video sometimes won't load, but probably the reason has nothing to do with Flash. I'll try your suggestion, though switching to Chrome seems as easy. By the way (for the benfit of anyone else reading this thread - I did it ages ago) I think I am right that the Develop menu has to be activated, it is not there by default. Or is my memory wrong of having to do this. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 14:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eivl1kFfpfcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102407 |
Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >> Nah! Any time you see a web page that claims Flash is needed, all you have >> to do is change the user agent (in the Safari "Develop" menu) to any iOS >> string and the video will "magically" load. There's literally no need to >> have Flash installed for the overwhelming majority of videos to play. > > Sure. As I said in my other post, the YouTube video sometimes won't > load, but probably the reason has nothing to do with Flash. I'll try > your suggestion, though switching to Chrome seems as easy. Meh. I won't install Chrome. > By the way (for the benfit of anyone else reading this thread - I did it > ages ago) I think I am right that the Develop menu has to be activated, > it is not there by default. Yep. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 22:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1n2zugo.13rjh1q15j5a0mN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #102413 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > Meh. I won't install Chrome. Care to say why? Your views are always intersting and well-informed, though of course there are times when I disagree with you. -- <http://www.decohen.com> The Labyrinth of the Heart: Changed Myths for Changing Lives book and e-book <http://www.decohen.com/labyrinth.htm> Send e-mail to the Reply-To address, not the From address.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 18:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160320171848231483%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #102437 |
In article <1n2zugo.13rjh1q15j5a0mN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > Meh. I won't install Chrome. > > Care to say why? Your views are always intersting and well-informed, > though of course there are times when I disagree with you. i don't use chrome because i don't want google's fingers in everything i do.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ej0ln3Fm809U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102441 |
On 2017-03-16, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <1n2zugo.13rjh1q15j5a0mN%dcohenspam@talktalk.net>, Daniel > Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> > Meh. I won't install Chrome. >> >> Care to say why? Your views are always intersting and well-informed, >> though of course there are times when I disagree with you. > > i don't use chrome because i don't want google's fingers in everything > i do. That's one of the big reasons for me as well (see my reply). -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 23:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ej0lmaFm809U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102437 |
On 2017-03-16, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Meh. I won't install Chrome. > > Care to say why? Your views are always intersting and well-informed, > though of course there are times when I disagree with you. Sure! A few different reasons: 1. I don't want Google tracking everything I do in a browser. There are some user interface features in Chrome that let you turn some tracking features off; but I don't trust Google not to continue tracking you even with all of them disabled. After all, Google was caught not long ago bypassing Safari privacy features by installing tracking cookies on Safari users' computers: <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/google-hit-with-ftc-complaint-says-circumventing-safari-privacy-features-accidental/> (For that reason I also never use Google to search; instead I use the most excellent and privacy-preserving DuckDuckGo.com as my search engine.) 2. It's got Flash baked in, which opens it up to many security holes. To make matters worse, you have little control over how that Flash code is updated over time, other than updating Chrome itself. 3. Google Chrome's Mac update facility has a history of hoarding update installers indefinitely and filling up people's hard drives over time: <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/bgFgjO4jWLk> 4. There's just no compelling reason for me to use a browser other than Safari for the vast majority of my browsing needs. The only time I nother with another browser (which is usually Firefox) is when some dumb-ass bank website malfunctions (usually due to being badly coded). On those very rare occasions where a site doesn't work correctly with Safari, Firefox does the trick just fine, sans tracking and privacy concerns. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2017-03-17 13:56 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1n319oi.w5u0pv1jnph45N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #102445 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-16, Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam@talktalk.net> wrote: > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > >> Meh. I won't install Chrome. > > > > Care to say why? Your views are always intersting and well-informed, > > though of course there are times when I disagree with you. I also don't have Chrome installed; I have the same reasons as JR, plus a few other issues with Chrome. > Sure! A few different reasons: > > 1. I don't want Google tracking everything I do in a browser. There are > some user interface features in Chrome that let you turn some tracking > features off; but I don't trust Google not to continue tracking you even > with all of them disabled. After all, Google was caught not long ago > bypassing Safari privacy features by installing tracking cookies on > Safari users' computers: > > <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/google-hit-with-ftc-complaint- > says-circumventing-safari-privacy-features-accidental/> > > (For that reason I also never use Google to search; instead I use the > most excellent and privacy-preserving DuckDuckGo.com as my search > engine.) > > 2. It's got Flash baked in, which opens it up to many security holes. To > make matters worse, you have little control over how that Flash code is > updated over time, other than updating Chrome itself. For a while I had Chromium installed for the rare occasions where I needed Flash, but they changed the mechanisms which meant Flash was no longer baked into Chromium, which made it more trouble than it was worth. I now have no way to access Flash content on my main computer. (I do still have Flash Player installed on my Mac Mini "set top box"; it only gets used for web browsing rarely, such as accessing TV on demand web sites which still use Flash, and then only for the one local network which has not released an Apple TV app - bizarre choice because they have released an iOS app and the competing network has had an Apple TV app for more than a year.) > 3. Google Chrome's Mac update facility has a history of hoarding update > installers indefinitely and filling up people's hard drives over time: > > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/bgFgjO4jWLk> My key reason for not having Chrome installed is that Chrome's update engine runs as a root-level process, which can do updates in the background without asking me first. I don't like software installing updates automatically, but my primary dislike of Chrome's method was that it would also download its updates in the background, even if I'm not using Chrome regularly. I'm often using an Internet connection which is metered (tethering via my iPhone), therefore having Chrome installed risks my data cap being hit. Until recently I was on a plan which started charging me without warning if I went over the cap, but a plan change means I now get "warn at 80%, stop at 100%" rather than automatically billing me for data by the megabyte. This was not a problem with Chromium because it has manual updates. > 4. There's just no compelling reason for me to use a browser other than > Safari for the vast majority of my browsing needs. The only time I > nother with another browser (which is usually Firefox) is when some > dumb-ass bank website malfunctions (usually due to being badly coded). > On those very rare occasions where a site doesn't work correctly with > Safari, Firefox does the trick just fine, sans tracking and privacy > concerns. Same for me. Probably 99% Safari, 1% Firefox. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-17 16:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ej2fimF2ijmU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102455 |
On 2017-03-17, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > (I do still have Flash Player installed on my Mac Mini "set top box"; it > only gets used for web browsing rarely, such as accessing TV on demand > web sites which still use Flash, and then only for the one local network > which has not released an Apple TV app - bizarre choice because they > have released an iOS app and the competing network has had an Apple TV > app for more than a year.) I know Netflix still demands you have Silverlight installed, because I had an old Mac mini set up just for watching video in a spare bedroom until I recently replaced it with an Apple TV. Which services still use Flash? >> 3. Google Chrome's Mac update facility has a history of hoarding update >> installers indefinitely and filling up people's hard drives over time: >> >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.system/bgFgjO4jWLk> > > My key reason for not having Chrome installed is that Chrome's update > engine runs as a root-level process, which can do updates in the > background without asking me first. > > I don't like software installing updates automatically, but my primary > dislike of Chrome's method was that it would also download its updates > in the background, even if I'm not using Chrome regularly. Yuck. No kidding. > I'm often using an Internet connection which is metered (tethering via > my iPhone), therefore having Chrome installed risks my data cap being > hit. Until recently I was on a plan which started charging me without > warning if I went over the cap, but a plan change means I now get "warn > at 80%, stop at 100%" rather than automatically billing me for data by > the megabyte. > > This was not a problem with Chromium because it has manual updates. I recall people having problems with the Google updater process as well, where it would consume lots of CPU in the background, and cause other performance issues as well. >> 4. There's just no compelling reason for me to use a browser other than >> Safari for the vast majority of my browsing needs. The only time I >> nother with another browser (which is usually Firefox) is when some >> dumb-ass bank website malfunctions (usually due to being badly coded). >> On those very rare occasions where a site doesn't work correctly with >> Safari, Firefox does the trick just fine, sans tracking and privacy >> concerns. > > Same for me. Probably 99% Safari, 1% Firefox. Sounds about right here too. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2017-03-18 10:17 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1n32tvt.17ymqvr1xt5fk5N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #102493 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2017-03-17, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > > > > (I do still have Flash Player installed on my Mac Mini "set top box"; it > > only gets used for web browsing rarely, such as accessing TV on demand > > web sites which still use Flash, and then only for the one local network > > which has not released an Apple TV app - bizarre choice because they > > have released an iOS app and the competing network has had an Apple TV > > app for more than a year.) > > I know Netflix still demands you have Silverlight installed, because I > had an old Mac mini set up just for watching video in a spare bedroom > until I recently replaced it with an Apple TV. Which services still use > Flash? Television New Zealand, who run TV One and TV Two here. Not one you're likely to encounter. Their web interface for on-demand viewing of recently broadcast programmes still uses Flash, as does the competition MediaWorks who run TV Three. Both have iOS apps, and both support the Freeview Plus streaming service to smart TVs. Only MediaWorks has an Apple TV app. None of these variants use Flash, only the web sites. They don't have mobile web site which stream video, so no way to trick the web site into giving non-Flash versions by pretending to be an iPad. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-17 21:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ej345sF6p52U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #102511 |
On 2017-03-17, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2017-03-17, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >> > >> > (I do still have Flash Player installed on my Mac Mini "set top box"; it >> > only gets used for web browsing rarely, such as accessing TV on demand >> > web sites which still use Flash, and then only for the one local network >> > which has not released an Apple TV app - bizarre choice because they >> > have released an iOS app and the competing network has had an Apple TV >> > app for more than a year.) >> >> I know Netflix still demands you have Silverlight installed, because I >> had an old Mac mini set up just for watching video in a spare bedroom >> until I recently replaced it with an Apple TV. Which services still use >> Flash? > > Television New Zealand, who run TV One and TV Two here. Not one you're > likely to encounter. Their web interface for on-demand viewing of > recently broadcast programmes still uses Flash, as does the competition > MediaWorks who run TV Three. > > Both have iOS apps, and both support the Freeview Plus streaming service > to smart TVs. Only MediaWorks has an Apple TV app. None of these > variants use Flash, only the web sites. They don't have mobile web site > which stream video, so no way to trick the web site into giving > non-Flash versions by pretending to be an iPad. That blows. : / Anyway, thank for the deets. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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