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| First post | 2016-11-06 06:40 +0000 |
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Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 06:40 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-06 07:29 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-06 07:40 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-06 06:34 -0400
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-07 10:05 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-07 11:50 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 12:08 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:41 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:41 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 15:50 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-17 19:58 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-17 09:32 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:34 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-18 13:06 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:05 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-17 23:08 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 07:05 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-17 23:39 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:46 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-18 16:30 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 13:11 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-19 17:42 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 14:22 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 09:01 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 07:30 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 13:33 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 09:52 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-11-20 19:22 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-21 16:18 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 10:30 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-19 10:13 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:39 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 10:23 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:48 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 10:02 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 21:20 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-19 16:52 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-20 02:55 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-19 21:59 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-20 03:26 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 14:37 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 09:31 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 09:40 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 18:37 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 11:03 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-19 07:46 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-20 06:55 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 16:42 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-19 09:48 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-19 09:45 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-15 13:49 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 10:00 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-16 11:18 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 20:32 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-18 10:23 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 18:08 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-19 10:31 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-07 16:44 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-07 17:12 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:50 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 08:54 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 20:08 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 13:17 -0800
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-15 13:32 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:53 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:18 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-11-16 07:39 +1100
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:11 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-11-16 09:24 +1300
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-15 13:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-14 09:49 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:59 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-15 09:52 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:56 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-15 22:19 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-16 09:10 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 14:02 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-11-16 12:13 -0500
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 17:45 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 18:28 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:48 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-17 18:47 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 19:30 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2016-11-18 06:51 +0000
Re: I'd Like to See a MacBook Pro Poll Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:39 +0000
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 17:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e93ka6Foc57U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96987 |
On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: > Howard S Shubs: >> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. > > Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be > to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great > photos with an iPhone!? Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole authority on what constitutes good photography. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2016-11-16 18:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2p9bq.1ipv.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #96988 |
In message <e93ka6Foc57U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >> Howard S Shubs: >>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >> >> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >> photos with an iPhone!? > Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole > authority on what constitutes good photography. He's also under the delusion that the camera determines if a photo is good or not, which is asinine. -- And sometimes there's a short cut. A door or a gate. Some standing stones. A tree cleft by lightning, a filing cabinet. Maybe just a spot on some moorland somewhere... A place where THERE is very nearly HERE... If some people knew where such a spot was, if they had experience of what happens when here and there become entangled, then they might - if they knew how - mark such a spot with certain stones. In the hope that enough daft buggers would take it as a warning and keep away. (Lords and Ladies)
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| From | Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2rurp.po.howard@whiskey.local> |
| In reply to | #96989 |
On 2016-11-16, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <e93ka6Foc57U1@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >>> Howard S Shubs: >>>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >>> >>> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >>> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >>> photos with an iPhone!? > >> Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole >> authority on what constitutes good photography. > > He's also under the delusion that the camera determines if a photo is > good or not, which is asinine. No, definitely not. The person behind the camera is at least 90% responsible for that, but some cameras have limitations that impede their results. That's just something you have to keep in mind when using them.
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| From | Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 18:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2rup9.po.howard@whiskey.local> |
| In reply to | #96988 |
On 2016-11-16, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >> Howard S Shubs: >>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >> >> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >> photos with an iPhone!? > > Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole > authority on what constitutes good photography. Of course I am. You ask me a question, I'm likely to answer. If you don't like my answer, that's on you. It doesn't matter if you asked the question generally, or didn't realize you were asking.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-17 19:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e96eqsFencvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #96999 |
On 2016-11-17, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote: > On 2016-11-16, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >>> Howard S Shubs: >>>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >>> >>> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >>> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >>> photos with an iPhone!? >> >> Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole >> authority on what constitutes good photography. > > Of course I am. Nope. You don't get to define what constitutes "pro" for everyone else on the planet. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> |
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| Date | 2016-11-18 06:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrno2t980.2ln.howard@whiskey.local> |
| In reply to | #97001 |
On 2016-11-17, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2016-11-17, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote: >> On 2016-11-16, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >>>> Howard S Shubs: >>>>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>>>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>>>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >>>> >>>> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >>>> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >>>> photos with an iPhone!? >>> >>> Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole >>> authority on what constitutes good photography. >> >> Of course I am. > > Nope. You don't get to define what constitutes "pro" for everyone else > on the planet. Nikon and Canon's marketing department agrees with me. So there. :->
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-11-18 07:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e97pgnFo40pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #97027 |
Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote: > On 2016-11-17, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2016-11-17, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote: >>> On 2016-11-16, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> On 2016-11-16, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote: >>>>> Howard S Shubs: >>>>>> Yes, I'm aware of that. It kinda makes me sick. Makes me wonder how >>>>>> much better those could have been with real cameras. OTOH, I suspect >>>>>> many of those pictures wouldn't have been taken at all otherwise. >>>>> >>>>> Lighten up! Or stop pulling my leg! How snobbish would you have to be >>>>> to be sickened by the fact that an ordinary person can make great >>>>> photos with an iPhone!? >>>> >>>> Pretty fucking snobbish and elitist. He seems to think he's the sole >>>> authority on what constitutes good photography. >>> >>> Of course I am. >> >> Nope. You don't get to define what constitutes "pro" for everyone else >> on the planet. > > Nikon and Canon's marketing department agrees with me. So there. :-> Lemming. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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