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Two-factor authentication

Started byPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
First post2016-11-03 15:58 +0000
Last post2016-11-04 19:26 +0000
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  Two-factor authentication Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-11-03 15:58 +0000
    Re: Two-factor authentication Alan Browne <alan.browne@freeluchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 18:07 -0400
      Re: Two-factor authentication Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-11-03 23:09 +0000
        Re: Two-factor authentication Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-03 20:52 -0400
    Re: Two-factor authentication Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:58 -0400
      Re: Two-factor authentication Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-11-04 17:45 +0000
        Re: Two-factor authentication Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:18 -0400
        Re: Two-factor authentication Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-04 19:26 +0000

#96423 — Two-factor authentication

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2016-11-03 15:58 +0000
SubjectTwo-factor authentication
Message-ID<nvfms2$9e0$1@dont-email.me>
I just let my MacBook Air upgrade to Sierra. During the subsequent
setup process, I was asked whether I wanted to set up two-factor
authentication. I said yes, and confirmed that Mac OS had my correct
iPhone phone number to send a text message. I stared at the iPhone
for a minute or so but never got a message. So I went to the next
screen and said to use the next method and a window popped up on
the iPhone asking whether I wanted to allow two-factor authentication
on my Mac. I entered my Apple password and clicked OK, but the Mac
kept saying "Waiting for approval." I finally clicked cancel and went
on with the setup process.

After being unable to find information about two-factor authentication
in Mac Help, I googled and found an Apple Support page that directed
me to iCloud account details. There I found a notice that two-factor
authentication was on. I also subsequently found two email messages
from Apple confirming that.

How did two-factor authentication get turned on if I never got a text
message and the Mac kept saying it was waiting for approval?

Also, sometime years ago I gave Apple my birthday as part of my
security setup. I don't normally give companies (except of course
things like medical or insurance companies) my real birthday, but
Apple has it, and now it's displayed in iCloud settings. I could 
change it there, but then it wouldn't match what Apple has on record, 
right? Has anyone here found the process for changing it througout
Apple's websites and devices?


Patty

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#96439

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freeluchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-11-03 18:07 -0400
Message-ID<nvgcdk$4dk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#96423
On 2016-11-03 11:58, Patty Winter wrote:
> I just let my MacBook Air upgrade to Sierra. During the subsequent
> setup process, I was asked whether I wanted to set up two-factor
> authentication. I said yes, and confirmed that Mac OS had my correct
> iPhone phone number to send a text message. I stared at the iPhone
> for a minute or so but never got a message. So I went to the next
> screen and said to use the next method and a window popped up on
> the iPhone asking whether I wanted to allow two-factor authentication
> on my Mac. I entered my Apple password and clicked OK, but the Mac
> kept saying "Waiting for approval." I finally clicked cancel and went
> on with the setup process.
>
> After being unable to find information about two-factor authentication
> in Mac Help, I googled and found an Apple Support page that directed
> me to iCloud account details. There I found a notice that two-factor
> authentication was on. I also subsequently found two email messages
> from Apple confirming that.
>
> How did two-factor authentication get turned on if I never got a text
> message and the Mac kept saying it was waiting for approval?

I tried to use TFA with Apple after Sierra and iOS 10 but ran into 
similar problems to yours.  I also went to my account on Apple to 
"disengage it all".  Never spent much more time on it.

> Also, sometime years ago I gave Apple my birthday as part of my
> security setup. I don't normally give companies (except of course
> things like medical or insurance companies) my real birthday, but
> Apple has it, and now it's displayed in iCloud settings. I could
> change it there, but then it wouldn't match what Apple has on record,
> right? Has anyone here found the process for changing it througout
> Apple's websites and devices?

Me too.  I have a standard fake birthday I use with all sites.  I also 
noticed that I use my real birthday on the Apple site.  Don't recall why 
I did that but maybe because of credit card info (?).  There does not 
seem to be the means to changing the birthday entered.

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#96440

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2016-11-03 23:09 +0000
Message-ID<nvgg39$an4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#96439
In article <nvgcdk$4dk$1@dont-email.me>,
Alan Browne  <alan.browne@freeluchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2016-11-03 11:58, Patty Winter wrote:
>
>> Also, sometime years ago I gave Apple my birthday as part of my
>> security setup. I don't normally give companies (except of course
>> things like medical or insurance companies) my real birthday, but
>> Apple has it, and now it's displayed in iCloud settings. I could
>> change it there, but then it wouldn't match what Apple has on record,
>> right? Has anyone here found the process for changing it througout
>> Apple's websites and devices?
>
>Me too.  I have a standard fake birthday I use with all sites.  I also 
>noticed that I use my real birthday on the Apple site.  Don't recall why 
>I did that but maybe because of credit card info (?).  There does not 
>seem to be the means to changing the birthday entered.

It's interesting that the iCloud settings window offers to ability
to change the birthdate. But I'm afraid that if I do, it will try
to verify that date with what the Apple security server has listed 
for me and the authentication will fail. 


Patty

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#96443

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2016-11-03 20:52 -0400
Message-ID<2fednWeQEYIjRobFnZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#96440
On 2016-11-03 19:09, Patty Winter wrote:
>
> In article <nvgcdk$4dk$1@dont-email.me>,
> Alan Browne  <alan.browne@freeluchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-03 11:58, Patty Winter wrote:
>>
>>> Also, sometime years ago I gave Apple my birthday as part of my
>>> security setup. I don't normally give companies (except of course
>>> things like medical or insurance companies) my real birthday, but
>>> Apple has it, and now it's displayed in iCloud settings. I could
>>> change it there, but then it wouldn't match what Apple has on record,
>>> right? Has anyone here found the process for changing it througout
>>> Apple's websites and devices?
>>
>> Me too.  I have a standard fake birthday I use with all sites.  I also
>> noticed that I use my real birthday on the Apple site.  Don't recall why
>> I did that but maybe because of credit card info (?).  There does not
>> seem to be the means to changing the birthday entered.
>
> It's interesting that the iCloud settings window offers to ability
> to change the birthdate. But I'm afraid that if I do, it will try
> to verify that date with what the Apple security server has listed
> for me and the authentication will fail.

You first!  ;-)


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#96454

FromAlrescha <alrescha@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-04 12:58 -0400
Message-ID<nviem8$hi6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#96423
On 2016-11-03 15:58:58 +0000, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> said:

> How did two-factor authentication get turned on if I never got a text
> message and the Mac kept saying it was waiting for approval?

If you are using a supported Apple device, you do not get a text 
message when using two-factor authentication.  Apple talks to the 
device using its own protocol.

n.b.: Apple supports two-step (old) and two-factor mechanisms.

See:

	https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915

A.

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#96455

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2016-11-04 17:45 +0000
Message-ID<nvihg8$qqq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#96454
In article <nviem8$hi6$1@dont-email.me>, Alrescha  <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2016-11-03 15:58:58 +0000, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> said:
>
>> How did two-factor authentication get turned on if I never got a text
>> message and the Mac kept saying it was waiting for approval?
>
>If you are using a supported Apple device, you do not get a text 
>message when using two-factor authentication.  Apple talks to the 
>device using its own protocol.

Okay, but then why did I keep getting a "Waiting for approval" spinner? 


Patty

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#96459

FromAlrescha <alrescha@gmail.com>
Date2016-11-04 14:18 -0400
Message-ID<nvijcc$49n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#96455
On 2016-11-04 17:45:44 +0000, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> said:

> Okay, but then why did I keep getting a "Waiting for approval" spinner?

Your guess is as good as mine, I have not seen it.

I am using two-factor on one apple-id, and two-step on another (testing 
the waters).  My changeover to two-factor seemed to go just fine, 
albeit with a lot of mail from Apple documenting each step.

A.

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#96461

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-11-04 19:26 +0000
Message-ID<e845nfF8u75U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#96455
Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> 
> In article <nviem8$hi6$1@dont-email.me>, Alrescha  <alrescha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-11-03 15:58:58 +0000, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> said:
>> 
>>> How did two-factor authentication get turned on if I never got a text
>>> message and the Mac kept saying it was waiting for approval?
>> 
>> If you are using a supported Apple device, you do not get a text 
>> message when using two-factor authentication.  Apple talks to the 
>> device using its own protocol.
> 
> Okay, but then why did I keep getting a "Waiting for approval" spinner? 

A temporary glitch. It's a complex mechanism. In the end two-factor
authentication *was* enabled. So it's no big deal.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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