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  Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-30 10:09 -0700
    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-30 18:01 +0000
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-09-30 13:56 -0700
        Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-30 21:21 +0000
          Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-03 12:33 -0700
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-01 16:13 -0500
        Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-01 21:18 +0000
          Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-01 21:40 +0000
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-01 18:57 -0500
              Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-01 17:16 -0700
                Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 15:57 -0400
                  Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-10-03 13:25 -0700
                    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-03 16:14 -0700
                  Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-03 23:07 +0000
                  Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-03 16:12 -0700
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-02 01:32 +0000
              Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-02 07:24 +0000
                Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-02 17:56 +0000
                  Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-02 22:12 +0000
          Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-01 18:56 -0500
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-02 06:16 +0000
        Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-01 18:12 -0600
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 16:00 -0400
    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-10-01 08:19 +1000
    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-01 03:54 +0000
    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2016-10-02 22:26 +0100
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Mandy Liefbowitz <mandyliefbowitz@the.port.side> - 2016-10-02 22:30 +0100
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-02 15:32 -0700
    Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-15 13:12 -0700
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-15 13:42 -0700
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Fred McKenzie <fmmck@aol.com> - 2016-10-15 16:50 -0400
        Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-15 14:22 -0700
          Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Martin Frost <nospam@Stanford.EDU.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:00 -0700
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 23:38 -0700
              Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 23:39 -0700
      Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-10-15 23:28 -0700
        Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 12:12 -0700
          Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-10-16 14:08 -0700
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 14:39 -0700
            Re: Flash Player Not Out of Date Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-10-16 19:49 -0700

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#94977 — Flash Player Not Out of Date

I attempt to do streaming of one kind or other in Safari, for instance 
this one:

	http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=7&cid=HP_LB_THUMB

And get a complaint that I must have Flash Player version 10.2.0 or 
greater.  I currently have 23.0.0.162 installed.  When I pop the same 
url into Firefox there is complaint.

Any ideas on how to correct this?

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#94980

On 2016-09-30, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> I attempt to do streaming of one kind or other in Safari, for instance 
> this one:
>
> 	http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=7&cid=HP_LB_THUMB
>
> And get a complaint that I must have Flash Player version 10.2.0 or 
> greater.  I currently have 23.0.0.162 installed.  When I pop the same 
> url into Firefox there is complaint.
>
> Any ideas on how to correct this?

It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
the videos will play. (If you don't see the Develop menu, go to Safari
Preferences > Advanced and enable "Show Develop menu in the menu bar"
first.) Some web sites stupidly assume that if you are browsing on a
desktop operating system like macOS, Linux, or Windows, you can run
Flash and blindly serve up Flash-based content. Yet those same web sites
will happily serve up HTML5 video content instead if they detect you are
browsing from a mobile operating system, since Flash doesn't run on most
mobile devices. You can blame the person who authored the web site for
this, since there's technically no reason they can't just use HTML5 in
all cases. 

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#95007

On 2016-09-30 18:01:31 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-09-30, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> I attempt to do streaming of one kind or other in Safari, for instance
>> this one:
>> 
>> 	http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=7&cid=HP_LB_THUMB
>> 
>> And get a complaint that I must have Flash Player version 10.2.0 or
>> greater.  I currently have 23.0.0.162 installed.  When I pop the same
>> url into Firefox there is complaint.
>> 
>> Any ideas on how to correct this?
> 
> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
> the videos will play. (If you don't see the Develop menu, go to Safari
> Preferences > Advanced and enable "Show Develop menu in the menu bar"
> first.) Some web sites stupidly assume that if you are browsing on a
> desktop operating system like macOS, Linux, or Windows, you can run
> Flash and blindly serve up Flash-based content. Yet those same web sites
> will happily serve up HTML5 video content instead if they detect you are
> browsing from a mobile operating system, since Flash doesn't run on most
> mobile devices. You can blame the person who authored the web site for
> this, since there's technically no reason they can't just use HTML5 in
> all cases.

Cool!  Many thanks for in interesting solution!

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#95009

On 2016-09-30, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-09-30 18:01:31 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2016-09-30, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> I attempt to do streaming of one kind or other in Safari, for instance
>>> this one:
>>> 
>>> 	http://abcnews.go.com/Live?stream=7&cid=HP_LB_THUMB
>>> 
>>> And get a complaint that I must have Flash Player version 10.2.0 or
>>> greater.  I currently have 23.0.0.162 installed.  When I pop the same
>>> url into Firefox there is complaint.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas on how to correct this?
>> 
>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>> the videos will play. (If you don't see the Develop menu, go to Safari
>> Preferences > Advanced and enable "Show Develop menu in the menu bar"
>> first.) Some web sites stupidly assume that if you are browsing on a
>> desktop operating system like macOS, Linux, or Windows, you can run
>> Flash and blindly serve up Flash-based content. Yet those same web sites
>> will happily serve up HTML5 video content instead if they detect you are
>> browsing from a mobile operating system, since Flash doesn't run on most
>> mobile devices. You can blame the person who authored the web site for
>> this, since there's technically no reason they can't just use HTML5 in
>> all cases.
>
> Cool!  Many thanks for in interesting solution!

No prob. I've removed Flash from all of my systems for some time now and
don't miss it at all. Good riddance! Highly recommended. : )

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#95127

On 2016-09-30 21:21:07 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

>>> You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>> the videos will play. (If you don't see the Develop menu, go to Safari
>>> Preferences > Advanced and enable "Show Develop menu in the menu bar"
>>> first.)

[...]

>> Cool!  Many thanks for in interesting solution!
> 
> No prob. I've removed Flash from all of my systems for some time now and
> don't miss it at all. Good riddance! Highly recommended. : )

I bumped into another flash complaint on another website today and 
checked my User Agent and found it had returned to default.  Can it be 
made to stick?

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#95036

On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
> the videos will play.

Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.

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#95038

On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>> the videos will play.
>
> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.

Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.

Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 

URL please.  : )

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#95039

In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>> the videos will play.
>>
>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.

> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.

> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 

He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just
checked on my MBP, and yep, videos will not load. Though I don't get any
sort of warning. They're doing something sneaky and super shitty, since
the videos do play on the iPad.


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stakes and garlic are for.' --Carpe Jugulum

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#95044

On 10-01-2016 16:40, Lewis wrote:
> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net>
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>> the videos will play.
>>>
>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>
>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>
>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>
> He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
> work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just

No, the OP may have said that.  I didn't.

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#95050

On 2016-10-01 23:57:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:

> On 10-01-2016 16:40, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net>
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>> 
>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>> 
>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>> 
>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>> 
>> He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>> work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just
> 
> No, the OP may have said that.  I didn't.

I, the OP, mentioned the ABC site.  Regardless of who goes there and 
why, making the modification I made as per Roger's suggestions, 
addressed my issue.  I didn't say it "refuses to work with Flash". It 
worked fine with Firefox, but not with Safari, and I don't know why, 
and at this point don't care.

The "Still wouldn't play" from above is not from me.

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#95132

"gtr"  wrote in message news:201610011716531231-xxx@yyyzzz...

On 2016-10-01 23:57:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:

> On 10-01-2016 16:40, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net>
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari 
>>>>> menu
>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>>
>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>>
>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>>
>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>>
>> He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>> work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just
>
> No, the OP may have said that.  I didn't.

>I, the OP, mentioned the ABC site.  Regardless of who goes there and why, 
>making the modification I made as per Roger's suggestions, addressed my 
>issue.  I didn't say it "refuses to work with Flash". It worked fine with 
>Firefox, but not with Safari, and I don't know why, and at this point don't 
>care.

It's simple.  Safari is a POS, and Firefox isn't.  In fact, most Mac users 
don't use Safari.  And most Mac users use Windows over whatever the current 
POS Apple OS. 

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#95136

On 2016-10-03 12:57 PM, Mongoose wrote:
>
>
> "gtr"  wrote in message news:201610011716531231-xxx@yyyzzz...
>
> On 2016-10-01 23:57:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:
>
>> On 10-01-2016 16:40, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net>
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari
>>>>>> menu
>>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like
>>>>>> magic
>>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>>>
>>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>>>
>>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>>>
>>> He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>>> work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just
>>
>> No, the OP may have said that.  I didn't.
>
>> I, the OP, mentioned the ABC site.  Regardless of who goes there and
>> why, making the modification I made as per Roger's suggestions,
>> addressed my issue.  I didn't say it "refuses to work with Flash". It
>> worked fine with Firefox, but not with Safari, and I don't know why,
>> and at this point don't care.
>
> It's simple.  Safari is a POS, and Firefox isn't.  In fact, most Mac
> users don't use Safari.  And most Mac users use Windows over whatever
> the current POS Apple OS.

What a load...

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#95168

On 2016-10-03 20:25:45 +0000, Alan Baker said:

>> And most Mac users use Windows over whatever
>> the current POS Apple OS.
> 
> What a load...

He's got a point.  Similarly most Cadillac drivers drive a VW, and most 
dog owners don't own a dog.

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#95165

In message <nsud78$uua$1@dont-email.me> 
  Mongoose <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> wrote:


> "gtr"  wrote in message news:201610011716531231-xxx@yyyzzz...

> On 2016-10-01 23:57:04 +0000, Happy.Hobo said:

>> On 10-01-2016 16:40, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net>
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari 
>>>>>> menu
>>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>>>
>>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>>>
>>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>>>
>>> He said he was on abcnews, and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>>> work without Flash. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. Just
>>
>> No, the OP may have said that.  I didn't.

>>I, the OP, mentioned the ABC site.  Regardless of who goes there and why, 
>>making the modification I made as per Roger's suggestions, addressed my 
>>issue.  I didn't say it "refuses to work with Flash". It worked fine with 
>>Firefox, but not with Safari, and I don't know why, and at this point don't 
>>care.

> It's simple.  Safari is a POS, and Firefox isn't.  In fact, most Mac users 
> don't use Safari.  And most Mac users use Windows over whatever the current 
> POS Apple OS. 

Three delusional statements in three sentences. Congratulations! The
funniest one, of course, is claiming most Mac users use Windows. As if.

Firefox was a good browser many years ago. It' been an overblown pile of
shitcode for more than 40 versions.

Safari, Chrome, Opera, and even IE11 and Edge are all better, though
Chrome is a terrible choice on a laptop because it is such a resource
pig.

I used to use Firefox with some useful plugins for web development, but
then Safari got excellent and there was Chrome and no need to deal with
Firefox any more.

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#95167

On 2016-10-03 19:57:40 +0000, Mongoose said:

> It's simple.  Safari is a POS, and Firefox isn't.  In fact, most Mac 
> users don't use Safari.  And most Mac users use Windows over whatever 
> the current POS Apple OS.

Ah, but that is a bit TOO simple.

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#95051

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>> the videos will play.
>>> 
>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
> 
>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
> 
>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 
> 
> He said he was on abcnews

No, *gtr* said that, not Happy Hobo.

> and that is one of the sites which refuses to
> work without Flash. 

That's incorrect.The URL in the first post of this thread does indeed play
videos in Safari with an iOS user agent string.

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#95060

In message <e5b6dtF42adU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net> 
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>> 
>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>> 
>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>> 
>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 
>> 
>> He said he was on abcnews

> No, *gtr* said that, not Happy Hobo.

Ah, oops.

>> and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>> work without Flash. 

> That's incorrect.The URL in the first post of this thread does indeed play
> videos in Safari with an iOS user agent string.

Not on my 10.12 laptop it doesn't. I tried quite a few and no go.



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T is for TITUS who flew into bits

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#95070

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <e5b6dtF42adU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net> 
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>>> 
>>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>>> 
>>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 
>>> 
>>> He said he was on abcnews
> 
>> No, *gtr* said that, not Happy Hobo.
> 
> Ah, oops.
> 
>>> and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>>> work without Flash. 
> 
>> That's incorrect.The URL in the first post of this thread does indeed play
>> videos in Safari with an iOS user agent string.
> 
> Not on my 10.12 laptop it doesn't. I tried quite a few and no go.

With the URL in the OP? Try it with Safari extensions disabled. Some (like
ClickToFlash and ClickToPlugin can interfere with normal operation).

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#95081

In message <e5d01rFh4inU1@mid.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <e5b6dtF42adU1@mid.individual.net> 
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <e5angsFhp3U6@mid.individual.net> 
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>>>>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>>>>>> the videos will play.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>>>> 
>>>>> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>>>> 
>>>>> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari? 
>>>> 
>>>> He said he was on abcnews
>> 
>>> No, *gtr* said that, not Happy Hobo.
>> 
>> Ah, oops.
>> 
>>>> and that is one of the sites which refuses to
>>>> work without Flash. 
>> 
>>> That's incorrect.The URL in the first post of this thread does indeed play
>>> videos in Safari with an iOS user agent string.
>> 
>> Not on my 10.12 laptop it doesn't. I tried quite a few and no go.

> With the URL in the OP? Try it with Safari extensions disabled. Some (like
> ClickToFlash and ClickToPlugin can interfere with normal operation).

I went to abcnews.go.com and set my UA to iPad iOS 10 clicked on videos
and then tried to play several. I could get the preview to load with the
bit play button in the middle, but clicking that caused the video area
to go black.

Ah. uBlock was blocking the pre-roll ad. That explains it.

Never mind.

<reënabling uBlock>


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#95043

On 10-01-2016 16:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-10-01, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
>> On 09-30-2016 13:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> It's a lie. You don't need Flash installed at all. From the Safari menu
>>> bar, choose Develop > User Agent > Safari — iOS — iPad, and like magic
>>> the videos will play.
>>
>> Tried that today.  Still wouldn't play.
>
> Works fine here on the vast majority of web sites that demand flash.
>
> Which web page did you try, and with which version of Safari?
>
> URL please.  : )

Probably something Facebook does that interferes.  Came from Youtube, 
but I was unable to get past Facebook's usurpation of (apparent) 
ownership to figure out the URI.

I've actually encountered very few videos I couldn't run; most of them 
Facebook hijackings.  Sorry, I meant "shared" :-)

I have an extension that automatically figures out if HTML5 is available 
and fetches it.

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