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El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect

Started byme <tglance@austin.rr.com>
First post2015-09-18 22:53 -0500
Last post2015-10-02 08:04 -0500
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  El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect me <tglance@austin.rr.com> - 2015-09-18 22:53 -0500
    Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 01:22 -0400
    Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-09-19 09:25 +0200
      Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect me <tglance@austin.rr.com> - 2015-09-19 12:21 -0500
        Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-09-19 11:33 -0700
          Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2015-09-20 13:11 -0500
    Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Andred <grossoa48@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 07:24 -0700
      Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2015-10-01 18:17 -0500
        Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-02 00:43 +0000
          Re: El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect Tim Lance <not@here.com> - 2015-10-02 08:04 -0500

#79941 — El Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect

Fromme <tglance@austin.rr.com>
Date2015-09-18 22:53 -0500
SubjectEl Capitan / SSL / Safari - failure to connect
Message-ID<d644i6FenkdU1@mid.individual.net>
I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but 
using all my stuff.

But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites 
(https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.

Safari Can't Open the Page
Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't 
establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".

Worse, it's not absolute! There are a very few SSL sites that do load. 
I've tried every bookmarked SSL site I have and maybe 4 connected. My 
bank's works. Grrr.

Googling gave me one hit from an early El Capitan beta claiming Avast 
was the cause. I don't have that but did have Sophus AntiVirus. Note 
the *had*. I uninstalled it and still no luck.

I have ditched stored passwords for some trial sites. I have ditched 
cookies & caches.

Any ideas?

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#79943

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2015-09-19 01:22 -0400
Message-ID<55fcf11b$0$49076$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#79941
On 15-09-18 23:53, me wrote:

> Safari Can't Open the Page
> Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't 
> establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".

I don't have the details but Apple changed https:// in Safari to require
new versions of SSL and not connect to older versions.

I assume Apple has plenty of notes ahout this change.

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#79955

FromAndreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch>
Date2015-09-19 09:25 +0200
Message-ID<andreas-76E79A.09253019092015@news.individual.de>
In reply to#79941
Salut me

In article <d644i6FenkdU1@mid.individual.net>,
 me <tglance@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but 
> using all my stuff.
> 
> But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites 
> (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
> 
> Safari Can't Open the Page
> Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't 
> establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".

you might find some hints here (otherwise there are many more, it is not 
an El Capitan specific problem):
<http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/53562/safari-cant-connect-to-ht
tps>

Cheers
Andreas

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#79970

Fromme <tglance@austin.rr.com>
Date2015-09-19 12:21 -0500
Message-ID<d65jt5Fq0ceU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79955
On 2015-09-19 07:25:31 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:

> Salut me
> 
> In article <d644i6FenkdU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  me <tglance@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
>> using all my stuff.
>> 
>> But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
>> (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
>> 
>> Safari Can't Open the Page
>> Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
>> establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
> 
> you might find some hints here (otherwise there are many more, it is not
> an El Capitan specific problem):
> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/53562/safari-cant-connect-to-ht
> tps>
> 
> Cheers
> Andreas

"Hints" was right. None worked. And then I realized they were all for 
stuff relating to a particular user. I had failed to mention in my OP 
that my issue appeared no matter what user I tried. So then it hit me 
like a ton of bricks that I could try at the root level. I was excited 
so swung a huge bat and deleted any pref file related to security in 
/private/var/root/Library/Preferences as well as /Library/Preferences. 
I have no idea which was the culprit but all is well now.

Thanks to all who read/considered/replied!

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#79973

FromAlan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Date2015-09-19 11:33 -0700
Message-ID<mtk9pk$ba4$1@news.datemas.de>
In reply to#79970
On 9/19/15, 10:21 AM, me wrote:
> On 2015-09-19 07:25:31 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
>
>> Salut me
>>
>> In article <d644i6FenkdU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>  me <tglance@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
>>> using all my stuff.
>>>
>>> But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
>>> (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
>>>
>>> Safari Can't Open the Page
>>> Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
>>> establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
>>
>> you might find some hints here (otherwise there are many more, it is not
>> an El Capitan specific problem):
>> <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/53562/safari-cant-connect-to-ht
>> tps>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andreas
>
> "Hints" was right. None worked. And then I realized they were all for
> stuff relating to a particular user. I had failed to mention in my OP
> that my issue appeared no matter what user I tried. So then it hit me
> like a ton of bricks that I could try at the root level. I was excited
> so swung a huge bat and deleted any pref file related to security in
> /private/var/root/Library/Preferences as well as /Library/Preferences. I
> have no idea which was the culprit but all is well now.
>
> Thanks to all who read/considered/replied!
>
Could you possibly list what you deleted?

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#80046

FromTim Lance <not@here.com>
Date2015-09-20 13:11 -0500
Message-ID<d68b6mFg13qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#79973
On Sep 19, 2015, Alan Baker wrote
(in article <mtk9pk$ba4$1@news.datemas.de>):

> On 9/19/15, 10:21 AM, me wrote:
> > On 2015-09-19 07:25:31 +0000, Andreas Rutishauser said:
> > 
> > > Salut me
> > > 
> > > In article <d644i6FenkdU1@mid.individual.net>,
> > > me <tglance@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
> > > > using all my stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
> > > > (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
> > > > 
> > > > Safari Can't Open the Page
> > > > Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
> > > > establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
> > > 
> > > you might find some hints here (otherwise there are many more, it is not
> > > an El Capitan specific problem):
> > > <http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/53562/safari-cant-connect-to-ht
> > > tps>
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > Andreas
> > 
> > "Hints" was right. None worked. And then I realized they were all for
> > stuff relating to a particular user. I had failed to mention in my OP
> > that my issue appeared no matter what user I tried. So then it hit me
> > like a ton of bricks that I could try at the root level. I was excited
> > so swung a huge bat and deleted any pref file related to security in
> > /private/var/root/Library/Preferences as well as /Library/Preferences. I
> > have no idea which was the culprit but all is well now.
> > 
> > Thanks to all who read/considered/replied!
> Could you possibly list what you deleted?

I went nuclear and deleted all com.apple.secrity.* files that were in 
/Library/Preferences

com.apple.security-common.plist com.apple.security.appsandbox.plist 
com.apple.security.plist com.apple.security.systemidentities.plist

I had already deleted all com.apple.secrity.* in ~/Library/Preferences which 
didn’t work.


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#81273

FromAndred <grossoa48@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-01 07:24 -0700
Message-ID<9981c8f5-3b94-47ec-abf1-2ffe888989e2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#79941
Il giorno sabato 19 settembre 2015 05:53:46 UTC+2, me ha scritto:
> I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but 
> using all my stuff.
> 
> But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites 
> (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
> 
> Safari Can't Open the Page
> Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't 
> establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
> 
> Worse, it's not absolute! There are a very few SSL sites that do load. 
> I've tried every bookmarked SSL site I have and maybe 4 connected. My 
> bank's works. Grrr.
> 
> Googling gave me one hit from an early El Capitan beta claiming Avast 
> was the cause. I don't have that but did have Sophus AntiVirus. Note 
> the *had*. I uninstalled it and still no luck.
> 
> I have ditched stored passwords for some trial sites. I have ditched 
> cookies & caches.
> 
> Any ideas?

I have the same problem. Safari, in ios 9 and OS El capitan, don't load some web sites with SSL. Infinity loading. Any tips?

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#81348

FromTim Lance <not@here.com>
Date2015-10-01 18:17 -0500
Message-ID<d75t7hFsqh4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81273
On Oct 1, 2015, Andred wrote
(in article<9981c8f5-3b94-47ec-abf1-2ffe888989e2@googlegroups.com>):

> Il giorno sabato 19 settembre 2015 05:53:46 UTC+2, me ha scritto:
> > I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
> > using all my stuff.
> > 
> > But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
> > (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
> > 
> > Safari Can't Open the Page
> > Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
> > establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
> > 
> > Worse, it's not absolute! There are a very few SSL sites that do load.
> > I've tried every bookmarked SSL site I have and maybe 4 connected. My
> > bank's works. Grrr.
> > 
> > Googling gave me one hit from an early El Capitan beta claiming Avast
> > was the cause. I don't have that but did have Sophus AntiVirus. Note
> > the *had*. I uninstalled it and still no luck.
> > 
> > I have ditched stored passwords for some trial sites. I have ditched
> > cookies & caches.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> 
> I have the same problem. Safari, in ios 9 and OS El capitan, don't load some
> web sites with SSL. Infinity loading. Any tips?

I went nuclear and deleted all com.apple.secrity.* files that were in
/Library/Preferences

com.apple.security-common.plist com.apple.security.appsandbox.plist
com.apple.security.plist com.apple.security.systemidentities.plist

I had already deleted all com.apple.secrity.* in ~/Library/Preferences which
didn’t work.

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#81355

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-02 00:43 +0000
Message-ID<d7629qFtt5aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81348
On 2015-10-01, Tim Lance <not@here.com> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2015, Andred wrote
> (in article<9981c8f5-3b94-47ec-abf1-2ffe888989e2@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> Il giorno sabato 19 settembre 2015 05:53:46 UTC+2, me ha scritto:
>> > I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
>> > using all my stuff.
>> > 
>> > But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
>> > (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
>> > 
>> > Safari Can't Open the Page
>> > Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
>> > establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
>> > 
>> > Worse, it's not absolute! There are a very few SSL sites that do load.
>> > I've tried every bookmarked SSL site I have and maybe 4 connected. My
>> > bank's works. Grrr.
>> > 
>> > Googling gave me one hit from an early El Capitan beta claiming Avast
>> > was the cause. I don't have that but did have Sophus AntiVirus. Note
>> > the *had*. I uninstalled it and still no luck.
>> > 
>> > I have ditched stored passwords for some trial sites. I have ditched
>> > cookies & caches.
>> > 
>> > Any ideas?
>> 
>> I have the same problem. Safari, in ios 9 and OS El capitan, don't load some
>> web sites with SSL. Infinity loading. Any tips?
>
> I went nuclear and deleted all com.apple.secrity.* files that were in
> /Library/Preferences
>
> com.apple.security-common.plist com.apple.security.appsandbox.plist
> com.apple.security.plist com.apple.security.systemidentities.plist

And that fixed the problem?

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#81376

FromTim Lance <not@here.com>
Date2015-10-02 08:04 -0500
Message-ID<d77dmuF9f2sU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#81355
On Oct 1, 2015, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <d7629qFtt5aU1@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2015-10-01, Tim Lance<not@here.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 2015, Andred wrote
> > (in article<9981c8f5-3b94-47ec-abf1-2ffe888989e2@googlegroups.com>):
> > 
> > > Il giorno sabato 19 settembre 2015 05:53:46 UTC+2, me ha scritto:
> > > > I'm doing OK with El Capitan - testing on a separate partition but
> > > > using all my stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > But I am losing my mind with one issue. I can not load SSL sites
> > > > (https) in Safari. They're fine in other browsers.
> > > > 
> > > > Safari Can't Open the Page
> > > > Safari can't open the page "https://facebook.com" because Safari can't
> > > > establish a secure connection to the server "facebook.com".
> > > > 
> > > > Worse, it's not absolute! There are a very few SSL sites that do load.
> > > > I've tried every bookmarked SSL site I have and maybe 4 connected. My
> > > > bank's works. Grrr.
> > > > 
> > > > Googling gave me one hit from an early El Capitan beta claiming Avast
> > > > was the cause. I don't have that but did have Sophus AntiVirus. Note
> > > > the *had*. I uninstalled it and still no luck.
> > > > 
> > > > I have ditched stored passwords for some trial sites. I have ditched
> > > > cookies & caches.
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > 
> > > I have the same problem. Safari, in ios 9 and OS El capitan, don't load
> > > some
> > > web sites with SSL. Infinity loading. Any tips?
> > 
> > I went nuclear and deleted all com.apple.secrity.* files that were in
> > /Library/Preferences
> > 
> > com.apple.security-common.plist com.apple.security.appsandbox.plist
> > com.apple.security.plist com.apple.security.systemidentities.plist
> 
> And that fixed the problem?

Yep. I reported it on the 19th then expanded on it the 20th.

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