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| Started by | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| First post | 2017-04-07 18:13 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-04-10 23:06 +0000 |
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Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-04-07 18:13 -0700
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-07 21:17 -0400
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-04-08 14:25 +1200
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-04-07 20:22 -0700
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-08 14:20 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-04-08 14:54 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> - 2017-04-08 09:01 -0700
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-08 16:18 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-08 11:09 -0700
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-08 16:15 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-04-09 14:26 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-08 12:18 -0400
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-04-08 16:47 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-04-08 16:53 +0000
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-08 13:04 -0400
Re: Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2017-04-10 23:06 +0000
| From | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-07 18:13 -0700 |
| Subject | Have I just not yet found the setting I need to twiddle? |
| Message-ID | <oc9dag$r19$2@dont-email.me> |
As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5, and now that I'm getting "settled in", I'm noticing something that annoys the bejeebers out of me - under Tiger, an open folder window includes a handy little "<some number> items, <some bytes> available" dingus in the footer of the window. The "<some bytes>" part I really couldn't much give a rip about (although it is occasionally at least marginally useful), but the item count is something that I find *EXTREMELY* useful in several "things I do often" scenarios. Is there a way to get that behavior back under Lion - some setting I haven't stumbled across, perhaps, or a pref I haven't noticed somewhere, or even something that needs (for instance) Onyx or Deeper to get to and mess with? I'm finding that I severely miss having the number of items in the folder available at a glance. While it's certainly possible to sit there and manually count how many items are in a folder when I need to know, doing so *REALLY* puts a crimp in my workflow - never mind the concept that a computer is supposed to help eliminate such drudgery... Or is this another one of the many "improved by being removed" things I've been noticing more and more of since making the switch? -- If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-07 21:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <070420172117406622%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #103705 |
In article <oc9dag$r19$2@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5, and now that I'm getting "settled in", I'm > noticing something that annoys the bejeebers out of me - under Tiger, an > open folder window includes a handy little "<some number> items, <some > bytes> available" dingus in the footer of the window. The "<some bytes>" > part I really couldn't much give a rip about (although it is > occasionally at least marginally useful), but the item count is > something that I find *EXTREMELY* useful in several "things I do often" > scenarios. > > Is there a way to get that behavior back under Lion - some setting I > haven't stumbled across, perhaps, or a pref I haven't noticed somewhere, > or even something that needs (for instance) Onyx or Deeper to get to and > mess with? I'm finding that I severely miss having the number of items > in the folder available at a glance. While it's certainly possible to > sit there and manually count how many items are in a folder when I need > to know, doing so *REALLY* puts a crimp in my workflow - never mind the > concept that a computer is supposed to help eliminate such drudgery... view menu, choose show status bar should do what you want, and i'm pretty sure that was there in lion (i can't test it to be sure).
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 14:25 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1n462on.pkfew61k8ye9gN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #103705 |
Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5, and now that I'm getting "settled in", I'm > noticing something that annoys the bejeebers out of me - under Tiger, an > open folder window includes a handy little "<some number> items, <some > bytes> available" dingus in the footer of the window. The "<some bytes>" > part I really couldn't much give a rip about (although it is > occasionally at least marginally useful), but the item count is > something that I find *EXTREMELY* useful in several "things I do often" > scenarios. Finder's View menu: Show Status Bar. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-07 20:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <oc9kse$a5p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103715 |
In article <1n462on.pkfew61k8ye9gN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > > > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5, and now that I'm getting "settled in", I'm > > noticing something that annoys the bejeebers out of me - under Tiger, an > > open folder window includes a handy little "<some number> items, <some > > bytes> available" dingus in the footer of the window. The "<some bytes>" > > part I really couldn't much give a rip about (although it is > > occasionally at least marginally useful), but the item count is > > something that I find *EXTREMELY* useful in several "things I do often" > > scenarios. > > Finder's View menu: Show Status Bar. Perfect! Thanking you muchly am I :) (I must have looked right through that at least a dozen times... <facepalm>) -- If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 14:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoehsi8.2ejq.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #103705 |
In message <oc9dag$r19$2@dont-email.me> Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5, and now that I'm getting "settled in", I'm > noticing something that annoys the bejeebers out of me - under Tiger, an > open folder window includes a handy little "<some number> items, <some >bytes> available" dingus in the footer of the window. The "<some bytes>" > part I really couldn't much give a rip about (although it is > occasionally at least marginally useful), but the item count is > something that I find *EXTREMELY* useful in several "things I do often" > scenarios. The Finder's "View" menu is your friend. -- Rick: And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault: That is my *least* vulnerable spot
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ocatk3$pgu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103705 |
Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. -- K. Connection closed by foreign host.
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| From | Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 09:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ocb1aa$4em$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103753 |
In article <ocatk3$pgu$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote: > Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > > > > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 > > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. If you disapprove of my making do with the best I can afford, you're more than welcome to fix that by buying me the newest bestest latest and greatest anytime you feel like doing so. Until then... <shrug> I'm stuck using what I can buy. -- If the door is baroque don't be Haydn. Come around Bach and jiggle the Handel.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 16:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eksgrhFib7fU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #103762 |
On 2017-04-08, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: > In article <ocatk3$pgu$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) > wrote: > >> Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: >> > >> > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger >> > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 >> >> Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. > > If you disapprove of my making do with the best I can afford, you're > more than welcome to fix that by buying me the newest bestest latest and > greatest anytime you feel like doing so. Until then... <shrug> I'm stuck > using what I can buy. Yeah. : ( Like I said, if this is a machine you use regularly, your best course of action is to obtain a newer machine. If money is an issue, take a look at Apple's refurbished offerings or eBay. <http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac> -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 11:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2017040811095137709-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #103765 |
On 2017-04-08 16:18:57 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said: > On 2017-04-08, Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: >> In article <ocatk3$pgu$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) >> wrote: >> >>> Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger >>>> 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 >>> >>> Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. >> >> If you disapprove of my making do with the best I can afford, you're >> more than welcome to fix that by buying me the newest bestest latest and >> greatest anytime you feel like doing so. Until then... <shrug> I'm stuck >> using what I can buy. > > Yeah. : ( Like I said, if this is a machine you use regularly, your best > course of action is to obtain a newer machine. If money is an issue, > take a look at Apple's refurbished offerings or eBay. > > <http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac> Yup! The other place to consider looking for a more recent used Mac is OWC. <https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Apple_Systems/Used/Macs_and_Tablets> -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 16:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eksglmFib7fU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #103753 |
On 2017-04-08, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: >> >> As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger >> 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 > > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. Yep, 10.7 and 10.8 were both transitional releases, each with their own set of nasty bugs and feature inconsistencies, especially with regard to iCloud integration, which was just ramping up at the time. 10.9 and 10.10 were much better, but also had some particularly troublesome issues with networking. Things have gotten much more stable and issue-free in the last couple releases. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2017-04-09 14:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoekh9g.1o7k.g.kreme@snow.local> |
| In reply to | #103763 |
In message <eksglmFib7fU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-08, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: >> Don Bruder <Don@sonic.net> wrote: >>> >>> As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger >>> 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 >> >> Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. > Yep, 10.7 and 10.8 were both transitional releases, each with their own > set of nasty bugs and feature inconsistencies, especially with regard to > iCloud integration, which was just ramping up at the time. 10.9 and > 10.10 were much better, but also had some particularly troublesome > issues with networking. Things have gotten much more stable and > issue-free in the last couple releases. If, like the OP, you are capped at 10.7 anyway, I'd probably roll back to 10.6.8. You're out of support anyway, and the web will be largely unusable, but 10.6.8 is better than 10.7.x -- "My parents were unwilling to secure the necessary eagle's eggs and lion semen"
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 12:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080420171218504967%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #103753 |
In article <ocatk3$pgu$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > > > > As I've mentioned in earlier posts, I've recently moved from Tiger > > 10.4.11 to Lion 10.7.5 > > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. except when the hardware won't support anything beyond lion.
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 16:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ocb47m$frf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103764 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. > > except when the hardware won't support anything beyond lion. Snow Leopard, while one version older than Lion, is infinitely better. Both are very old now but Snow Leopard was an excellent OS X version. Lion was absolutely awful. -- K. Connection closed by foreign host.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 16:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eksirmFib7fU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #103770 |
On 2017-04-08, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. >> >> except when the hardware won't support anything beyond lion. > > Snow Leopard, while one version older than Lion, is infinitely better. > Both are very old now but Snow Leopard was an excellent OS X version. > Lion was absolutely awful. In terms of stability, I agree. In terms of security, definitely not. But it's also true that both suffer from security vulnerabilities that have been patched in later releases. So again, if you are using the machine regularly to access the net, the best thing you can do is retire it and replace it with something more modern and more secure. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-08 13:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080420171304239029%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #103770 |
In article <ocb47m$frf$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > > > Ugh. Lion was Apple's Windows Vista. *Anything* is better. > > > > except when the hardware won't support anything beyond lion. > > Snow Leopard, while one version older than Lion, is infinitely better. no it isn't. > Both are very old now yep > but Snow Leopard was an excellent OS X version. it was > Lion was absolutely awful. also true, but it's better than snow leopard.
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2017-04-10 23:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <och36f$t2u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #103775 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > but Snow Leopard was an excellent OS X version. > > it was > > > Lion was absolutely awful. > > also true, but it's better than snow leopard. If awful is better than excellent in the world you live in, it must be even more topsy-turvy than I thought. -- K. Connection closed by foreign host.
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