Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail

From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail
Date	2020-11-30 13:39 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnrs9tgp.2env.g.kreme@claragold.local> (permalink)
References	(3 earlier) <rq0diu$4li$1@remote5bge0.ripco.com> <291120201017516063%nospam@nospam.invalid> <K_TwH.30898$sB6.9684@fx34.iad> <291120201604587320%nospam@nospam.invalid> <dv%wH.215919$oL7.86074@fx06.iad>

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In message <dv%wH.215919$oL7.86074@fx06.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2020-11-29 16:04, nospam wrote:

>> the claim was that usb was not initialized. that is demonstrably false.

> My point was that the two are not irreconciliable. USB may be
> initialized, but the console may be set to not look at USB drives for
> bootable media.

So, when you said USB was not initialized you were pulling things out of
your ass with no basis in fact whatsoever? Gosh, that doesn't sound like
you.

> However, the whole point of the ALT key startup (Startup Manager) is to
> choose a boot drive, so one would think this is one area where all
> drives would be made available.

All BOOT drives the System can see, yes. For example, during Big
Sur Beta if you booted into big sure, then rebooted with the option key
down you would see the Big Sur drive and all the other drives (Catalina,
Mojave, and my spare Mojave install, for example). If I booted into
Catalina and then rebooted with the option key down, I would see the
Catalina and Mojave Drives and not the Big Sur drive, just another
choice "EFI boot"

Selecting that option, would reboot the computer, then reboot the
computer AGAIN into Big Sur.

That is not the case on the release version of Big Sur, of course.

> One possibility is that the USB drive is seen by the console but for
> some reason not recognized as a bootable drive.

So the opposite of what you claimed was happening.

> When you boot recovery, you are booting an instance of OS-X

There is still no such thing as "OS-X" and never has been and no
version of "OS X" or "Mac OS X" runs on current hardware.

-- 
she [Esk] was already learning that if you ignore the rules people
	will, half the time, quietly rewrite them so they don't apply to
	you. --Equal Rites

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Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 16:15 -0500
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 16:30 -0500
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 01:33 +0000
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 20:39 -0500
      Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:33 +0000
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:50 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 20:29 +0000
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 13:38 +0000
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 08:56 -0500
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:54 -0500
      Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 15:09 +0000
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 10:17 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 16:01 -0500
            Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 16:04 -0500
              Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 00:34 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-30 06:49 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-30 13:39 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-30 09:02 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 20:59 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-01 06:10 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-01 04:57 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-01 10:36 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-02 00:20 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-12-02 01:17 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-02 10:34 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-02 23:30 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-03 05:45 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-03 23:34 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-12-03 23:04 -0800
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-04 04:15 -0500
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 10:31 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 16:22 +0000
            Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 11:41 -0500
              Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 14:02 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 14:27 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-30 12:03 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-30 11:34 -0500

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