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Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail

From bje@ripco.com
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail
Date 2020-11-29 16:22 +0000
Organization Ripco Communications Inc.
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Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

> Got it.  Yep.  That seems to be correct.  Not sure if that's because the 
> USB is not on or some other issue, however.

Well here's a mindfuck for you.

Put the original drive back in and insert the usb drive.

Now boot holding the option key.

Shows up doesn't it?

Boot normally, settings -> startup disk.

Shows up too, right?

Reboot and it'll boot from the stick just fine. 

Just quit the installer and reboot.

Now put the new drive in and try all of the above.

No workie, right?

With the new drive in the machine, command-r on boot, quit the installer and
go up to the menu for the Utilities.

usb stick shows up.

selcet it, now reboot, usb stick no longer workie.

Alan I'm not trying to pull your dick, I went through this nearly exactly
last summer and took two days to figure out what was going on. If I'm not
mistaken, it's a firmware update that you are missing.

I sort of remembered once I got past the clock error thing, it had to reboot
two or three times for everything to finish. One of those times was
definetly a firmware update. I never went back to check.

All it comes down to is, your machine without a bootable drive will not turn
on usb or be able to boot from the usb ports. 

And to the fucktard, yes, the keyboard and mouse via usb will work fine, but
then, they aren't bootable devices, are they?

And that actually might be what I ran across while searching for an answer
to this, it's something with the handshaking for usb1/usb2 devices on boot.
Most of the keyboards/mice/trackpads are/were usb1 devices. USB1 doesn't
support mass storage. USB2 does. I'm still not sure the firmware update
fixes it but some guy made that theory and it made sense at the time.

But I never could understand why placing a working/bootable device into it
would fix the problem, even if you aren't booting from it.

Also, here is more details about the "osx could not be installed" error, if
you run across it. Its for an older update (el capitan) but the same for
what you are doing.

http://www.davidhill.co/2016/06/os-x-could-not-be-installed-on-your-computer-el-capitan/

The date reset is a bit tricky because of the format needed.

Same trick works on expired bundles and images.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com


  

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Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 16:15 -0500
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 16:30 -0500
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 01:33 +0000
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-28 20:39 -0500
      Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 05:33 +0000
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:50 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-29 20:29 +0000
  Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 13:38 +0000
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 08:56 -0500
    Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 09:54 -0500
      Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 15:09 +0000
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 10:17 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-29 16:01 -0500
            Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 16:04 -0500
              Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 00:34 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-30 06:49 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-30 13:39 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-30 09:02 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-30 20:59 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-01 06:10 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-01 04:57 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-01 10:36 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-02 00:20 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-12-02 01:17 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-02 10:34 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-02 23:30 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-12-03 05:45 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-03 23:34 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-12-03 23:04 -0800
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-12-04 04:15 -0500
        Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 10:31 -0500
          Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-29 16:22 +0000
            Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 11:41 -0500
              Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 14:02 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-29 14:27 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-30 12:03 +0000
                Re: Late 20112 - SSD install - fail Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-30 11:34 -0500

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