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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:00:18 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> On 4/22/17, 10:43 AM, in article op.yy3x6uohjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I give my parents the credit.
>>>> You perhaps don't know how children are born?
>>>> They have no say regarding their skin colour.
>>>>
>>>>> i'm sure you can relate to that.
>>>>
>>>> You're dumber than a brick.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind that in general it is the liberal states who give to the
>>> federal government and the conservative states who take. Not 100%, but the
>>> tendency is clearly there.
>>
>> I'm in the UK so things may be different, and I'm not sure if the labels mean
>> the same thing.  But here, the conservative government (right wing,
>> capitalist) saves money and doesn't spend much.  The labour government (left
>> wing, socialist) spends money on everything, promising better healthcare and
>> education, and ends up putting the country into more and more debt, then the
>> conservatives have to raise the taxes to recover when they next get in, which
>> of course labour blames them for.
>
> The conservatives will say the same thing about the US, but it is not how it
> works... BOTH major parties (we have only two) are paid for and beholden to
> wealthy interests. They serve the wealthy. Here is a BBC article on it:
>
>     <http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746>
>
> The Democrats put some efforts into protecting human rights and the
> environment, but generally as little as they can get away with and often
> doing things for show more than real purpose. This is what lead to us
> getting Trump who is an utter joke.

What have you got against Trump?   He's the best president you've ever had.

> The Democrats pushed through Clinton who
> was clearly serving the rich and even talked about having a public agenda
> for the people and a private agenda for them (not her exact words). It is
> pretty gross.
>
> At this point the US is the wealthiest country in the world but most of our
> new wealth goes to the very rich and they take and take and take. Then they
> control the media and push the idea, which many buy, that the poor -- those
> with the least power and ability to take ANYTHING -- are somehow the
> "takers"... a claim which makes absolutely no sense. This is a decent
> summary:
>
> <https://mitpress.mit.edu/vanishing>
>     -----
>     The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few
>     families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin
>     offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class.
>     Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly
>     slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening
>     gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model
>     of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in
>     America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that
>     America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the
>     poor.
>
>     Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a
>     developing country‹substandard education, dilapidated housing, and
>     few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of
>     black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black.
>     Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor
>     white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people
>     as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the
>     Other‹black, Latino, not like "us." Politicians also use mass
>     incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from
>     participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched
>     prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system,
>     the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail.
>     -----
>
> It has been getting worse and worse here since the 1980s.
>
>
>


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