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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 4/29/17, 1:11 PM, in article op.yzg3o0n1js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:00:18 +0100, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/22/17, 10:43 AM, in article op.yy3x6uohjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
>> Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> I give my parents the credit.
>>>>> You perhaps don't know how children are born?
>>>>> They have no say regarding their skin colour.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> i'm sure you can relate to that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're dumber than a brick.
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind that in general it is the liberal states who give to the
>>>> federal government and the conservative states who take. Not 100%, but the
>>>> tendency is clearly there.
>>> 
>>> I'm in the UK so things may be different, and I'm not sure if the labels
>>> mean
>>> the same thing.  But here, the conservative government (right wing,
>>> capitalist) saves money and doesn't spend much.  The labour government (left
>>> wing, socialist) spends money on everything, promising better healthcare and
>>> education, and ends up putting the country into more and more debt, then the
>>> conservatives have to raise the taxes to recover when they next get in,
>>> which
>>> of course labour blames them for.
>> 
>> The conservatives will say the same thing about the US, but it is not how it
>> works... BOTH major parties (we have only two) are paid for and beholden to
>> wealthy interests. They serve the wealthy. Here is a BBC article on it:
>> 
>>     <http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746>
>> 
>> The Democrats put some efforts into protecting human rights and the
>> environment, but generally as little as they can get away with and often
>> doing things for show more than real purpose. This is what lead to us
>> getting Trump who is an utter joke.
> 
> What have you got against Trump?

His lack of any qualifications are significant, but I think his utter lack
of judgement might be a bigger thing.

>  He's the best president you've ever had.

The best we have had in the last 100 days. Can't argue with that!

>> The Democrats pushed through Clinton who
>> was clearly serving the rich and even talked about having a public agenda
>> for the people and a private agenda for them (not her exact words). It is
>> pretty gross.
>> 
>> At this point the US is the wealthiest country in the world but most of our
>> new wealth goes to the very rich and they take and take and take. Then they
>> control the media and push the idea, which many buy, that the poor -- those
>> with the least power and ability to take ANYTHING -- are somehow the
>> "takers"... a claim which makes absolutely no sense. This is a decent
>> summary:
>> 
>> <https://mitpress.mit.edu/vanishing>
>>     -----
>>     The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few
>>     families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin
>>     offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class.
>>     Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly
>>     slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening
>>     gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model
>>     of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in
>>     America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that
>>     America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the
>>     poor.
>> 
>>     Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a
>>     developing country‹substandard education, dilapidated housing, and
>>     few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of
>>     black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black.
>>     Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor
>>     white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people
>>     as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the
>>     Other‹black, Latino, not like "us." Politicians also use mass
>>     incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from
>>     participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched
>>     prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system,
>>     the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail.
>>     -----
>> 
>> It has been getting worse and worse here since the 1980s.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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