Re: Sierra's Time Machine's backups slower?

From	Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
Subject	Re: Sierra's Time Machine's backups slower?
Date	2017-04-26 22:10 -0700
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<odrufm$mh8$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References	(6 earlier) <here-540130.06370127042017@news.individual.net> <270420170039597801%nospam@nospam.invalid> <here-DC76BB.06440927042017@news.individual.net> <odrtn6$l3n$1@gioia.aioe.org> <here-538AB8.07085327042017@news.individual.net>

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On 2017-04-26 10:08 PM, android wrote:
> In article <odrtn6$l3n$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>  Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-26 9:44 PM, android wrote:
>>> In article <270420170039597801%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <here-540130.06370127042017@news.individual.net>, android
>>>> <here@there.was> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Time Machine backups alternate between two drives, and both are
>>>>>>>> always connected so I doubt there's ever a day in which both drives
>>>>>>>> aren't backed up to multiple times (and I dare anyone to try and fix
>>>>>>>> that stranded preposition). Since I'm rarely away from the computer
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> even a single day I doubt that's the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm backing up both my internal drive (3TB - less than 1TB used) and
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> external Thunderbolt Drive (4TB, about 3TB used) to 2 external 8TB
>>>>>>>> USB
>>>>>>>> drives. Not sure if backing up multiple drives should make a
>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I said, this happens very infrequently, so I'm not terribly
>>>>>>>> concerned
>>>>>>>> about it. More just curious...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Time Machine gets very slow when it has to delete old backups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no it doesn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> oldest backup is slow to delete, possibly because it is mostly actual
>>>>>>> files and not fake hardlinks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> also wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing beats a good cloning schedule for backups. You don't have to
>>>>> watch the 'putter while it does its things...
>>>>
>>>> nor do you with time machine.
>>>
>>> So you can boot from a TM backup? And it never fails?
>>>
>>
>> No...
>>
>> ...but you can restore from a TM backup and then boot.
>
> That won't help you out if you have a HD failure.

Not in an instant, it won't, but if you have another HD (or can buy one 
just up the street), you can quickly solve that problem.

>
> Let me add that any backup should be rotated. Like storing daily, weekly
> and monthly clones. Or something like that. Copies off site is good if
> you can arrange for it.

Preaching to the choir, here.

You can do that with TM you know...

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