Re: Sierra's Time Machine's backups slower?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage
Subject	Re: Sierra's Time Machine's backups slower?
Date	2017-04-27 23:23 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<emfcriFgfs0U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(6 earlier) <here-540130.06370127042017@news.individual.net> <270420170039597801%nospam@nospam.invalid> <here-DC76BB.06440927042017@news.individual.net> <emel98FbmobU1@mid.individual.net> <here-0BD000.20322727042017@news.individual.net>

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On 2017-04-27, android <here@there.was> wrote:
> In article <emel98FbmobU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-27, android <here@there.was> wrote:
>> > In article <270420170039597801%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>> >  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> >> In article <here-540130.06370127042017@news.individual.net>, android
>> >> <here@there.was> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>>>> Time Machine gets very slow when it has to delete old backups. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> no it doesn't.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> The oldest backup is slow to delete, possibly because it is mostly
>> >>>>> actual files and not fake hardlinks.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> also wrong.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Nothing beats a good cloning schedule for backups. You don't have to
>> >>> watch the 'putter while it does its things...
>> >> 
>> >> nor do you with time machine.
>> >
>> > So you can boot from a TM backup? And it never fails?
>> 
>> My goodness... You poor ignorant thing! You just can't seem to get
>> anything right.  Bless your little heart!
>> 
>> No, Time Machine *doesn't* get "very slow" when it deletes old backups.
>> To wit, here's a sample where 1.27GB of new/changed data was backed up,
>> and where 446.5 MB of stale backups were deleted in only 12 minutes -
>> over the network:
>> 
> [---]
>> 
>> So... The backup of new data took nine minutes, and the deletion of the
>> old backup took less than one minute. Imagine that.
>
> Soo? I have not made any complaints on the speed of TM. You've 
> attributed the wrong person.

Ah, okay. You're just replying to a sub-thread where someone claimed TM
is slow to talk about your own thing because you're such a stellar
proponent of Usenet etiquette, is that it? So much for leading by
example, I guess.

Conveniently you are mum when it comes to booting from TM volumes.
Nothing more to say on that one, eh? Thought we'd forget you said it
wasn't possible?
 
>> And no, old backups aren't "mostly actual files and not fake hardlinks"
>> either.
>
> That is nothing that I've have written. You've attributed the wrong 
> person.

See above. You're not one to spam this news group repeatedly about
Usenet etiquette when you can't even bother to set a good example.
Replying to a sub-thread with an off-topic post is rude and frowned
upon.

>> And yes, you definitely can boot from Time Machine backups. I've done it
>> plenty of times.
>
> Good for you. I wouldn't trust it. There are way to many complaints of 
> failed TM backups on the net for that.

Heh... As if that means anything. There are complaints about
*everything* on the net. I notice when I search Google for
"MTNewswatcher problem" there are over twenty thousand hits - yet here
you are using it. I guess you shouldn't trust it either, eh? Way too
many complaints!

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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