Re: 10.6 no longer boots.

From	FPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: 10.6 no longer boots.
Date	2014-08-10 21:26 -0400
Organization	Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
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On 2014-08-10 19:24:42 +0000, Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> said:

> In article <ls8g0s$t25$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2014-08-10 18:35:09 +0000, Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> said:
>> 
>>> In article <mcmurtrie-3871F7.22313309082014@news.sonic.net>,
>>> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try booting into single user mode and fully reading the disk device with
>>>> 'dd' or one of the 'fsck' options.  I've had bad experiences with
>>>> Hitachi failing while still reporting a good SMART status.  MacOS X
>>>> rarely reports fatal disk I/O errors on its own.
>>> 
>>> I finally got the 64-bit 10.6 up again, but then it failed on reboot, so,
>>> crap,
>>> that means a race condition (unlikely) or a flakey disk or disk sector. Oh,
>>> well. I got an external disk with more than enough spare room, so I can
>>> copying
>>> off to a spare and all that kind of nonsense. Oh, mother pus bucket.
>> 
>> I take it you don't have something like Diskwarrior...  I've
>> resurrected drives that wouldn't boot with DW before.
>> 
>> It's expensive, and a one-trick pony - but it does what it does very
>> well.  Their tech support will even give you a password that will
>> unlock hidden diagnostics within the program for specific needs.
>> 
>> I've heard of cases where it's run for hours, or even days to fix
>> problems on a drive.
> 
> The first thing is to try to copy the disk to another drive before messing
> around with the drive with the root file system.

Really, backing up BEFORE you had a disk problem was the first, last 
and only thing you really needed to do.

At this point, if you're fucked, you're fucked.

Diskwarrior won't actually DO anything until you tell it to.  I assumed 
you'd have tried to copy the disk first, before even thinking about 
trying anything else.

If DW thinks it's too far gone to repair, it allows you to preview your 
drive, and that's when you would try a last ditch effort to copy the 
data off the drive.
-- 
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty... and the pig LIKES it.

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10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-08 21:36 -0700
  Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-09 15:37 +0000
  Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-09 11:20 -0700
    Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-09 17:20 -0700
      Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-09 22:31 -0700
        Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 11:35 -0700
          Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 18:50 +0000
            Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 11:53 -0700
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 18:55 +0000
          Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 15:09 -0400
            Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 12:24 -0700
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 21:26 -0400
            Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-10 19:30 -0700
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-10 22:36 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 01:43 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 09:54 -0600
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-11 12:12 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 15:49 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 09:21 +1200
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 18:32 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 23:17 +0000
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 23:28 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 16:14 +1200
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 01:40 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-08-12 14:21 -0400
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                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 13:26 +1200
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-11 21:35 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 23:31 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-08-12 16:12 +1200
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                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 01:40 -0400
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                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-08-12 02:54 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-12 03:14 -0400
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-08-11 14:11 +0000
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 14:56 +0000
            Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 09:54 -0600
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 16:25 +0000
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-12 21:03 -0700
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-13 15:10 +0000
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 09:52 -0700
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 14:37 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 11:50 -0700
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-13 11:51 -0700
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-14 10:17 -0600
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-08-14 20:43 -0700
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-08-11 14:39 -0500
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 23:15 +0000
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 15:52 -0400
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2014-08-11 14:30 -0600
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-11 18:42 -0400
          Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-10 20:32 +0000
            Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 14:25 -0700
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-08-10 21:26 -0400
              Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-08-11 01:32 +0000
                Re: 10.6 no longer boots. Siri Crews <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-08-10 19:08 -0700

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