Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models

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On 7 Mar 2024 at 23:07:39 GMT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

> On 2024-03-07 17:39, dgb (David) wrote:
>> On 7 Mar 2024 at 22:27:39 GMT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-03-07 04:33, dgb (David) wrote:
>>>> On 7 Mar 2024 at 01:03:05 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> I don't store my entire photo library in iCloud. Doing so would cause me
>>>>> to pay a monthly or yearly subscription, and I'm not interested in doing
>>>>> that when I have lots of storage right on my Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> I do store all of my photo library on iCloud and I'm happy to pay a small
>>>> monthly fee.
>>> 
>>> Yeesh!  I do hope you have separate copies on physical media that you
>>> can access.
>> 
>> In the days of photographs taken with a camera I have physically printed
>> copies. I also have dozens of CD's containing what I considered 'important'
>> photographs.
>> With the advent of the iPhone and Apple's iCloud I make do with nothing more
>> than Time Machine backups. Try as I might, I cannot envisage Apple failing to
>> keep my images safe in their iCloud.
>> If that makes you cringe, please tell me why!
> 
> You can never rely on a third party to do what is best for you.

Indeed!  I understand where you are coming from!

> iCloud is _not_ a backup service.

I understand that. Thanks.

> Various famous cases of photo sites losing troves of photos due to
> various reasons.  Not even time for people to get their photos off.

I was taught a saluatory lesson many years ago when I had a hard drive failure
.... and no back-up!

> I would rate Apple as very unlikely to lose your data, but the chances
> that they do is a non-zero probability no matter how small.

OK - I'll accept that!

> And probably more likely is that you may end up in a situation where you
> don't have access to iCloud when when you need it.

I'd be lost without my Internet connection! ;-)

> Time Machine is not the most reliable backup you can have - it's mighty
> convenient after a whoopsie, but it's not infallible (or at least the
> external media isn't).

Indeed. I have had my WD My Book back-up drive fail on me!

> You need to have static offline backups as well.  And that is more work
> and maintenance.  If your photos are precious - treat them as precious.

Yes indeed. Thanks for your thoughts on this.

-- 
David

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  Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-03-05 07:25 +0100
  Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-05 09:12 -0500
    Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-03-05 15:26 +0100
      Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-05 14:52 -0500
        Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-05 20:42 +0000
          Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-05 16:17 -0500
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-05 22:07 +0000
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-05 18:08 -0500
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-06 17:45 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-06 08:07 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-06 16:23 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-03-06 17:25 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-06 21:40 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-07 11:59 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 15:01 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 01:04 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 17:17 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-03-06 18:25 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 17:29 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-03-07 18:35 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 03:58 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:25 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-07 17:20 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-08 16:41 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-08 16:27 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-09 09:44 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:23 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-07 17:20 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:22 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 01:03 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 09:33 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 16:42 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 20:26 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 21:32 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 22:24 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 23:04 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 23:21 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-08 01:38 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-08 08:44 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:27 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 22:39 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 18:07 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-08 08:36 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alrescha <news@alrescha.com> - 2024-03-07 15:47 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-07 15:53 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 16:50 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alrescha <news@alrescha.com> - 2024-03-08 07:23 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-08 11:18 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-07 22:58 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomale.afraid.org> - 2024-03-10 18:00 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomale.afraid.org> - 2024-03-10 18:17 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-10 22:23 +0000
                Desktop & Documents Folders in iCloud Drive. - (was-  [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models) (was: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models) dgb (David) <david@nomale.afraid.org> - 2024-03-13 07:55 +0000
                Re: Desktop & Documents Folders in iCloud Drive. - (was-  [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models) (was: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-13 16:40 +0000
                Re: Desktop & Documents Folders in iCloud Drive. - dgb (David) <david@nomale.afraid.org> - 2024-03-13 17:10 +0000
                Re: Desktop & Documents Folders in iCloud Drive. - Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-13 10:46 -0700
                Re: Desktop & Documents Folders in iCloud Drive. - Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-03-14 00:03 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-03-07 09:55 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-03-06 21:20 +0000
        Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-05 13:50 -0800
          Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-05 18:22 -0500
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-05 16:17 -0800
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-03-06 10:08 +0100
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-06 17:14 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 14:24 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:16 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-07 17:36 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-08 16:45 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-08 16:40 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-09 09:46 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-11 09:23 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-03-09 07:49 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-09 10:27 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-03-09 17:20 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-11 09:24 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-11 17:53 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-11 15:50 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-11 19:29 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-11 17:38 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-12 18:33 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-12 16:07 -0700
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-03-06 10:07 +0100
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-06 17:20 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 14:24 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-07 17:18 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-07 17:37 -0800
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-08 16:47 -0500
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-08 16:41 -0800
        Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-03-06 10:06 +0100
          Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-03-06 17:18 -0500
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-03-06 14:24 -0800
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