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Re: More mailbox problems with Mail

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: More mailbox problems with Mail
Date 2017-03-17 17:31 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <ej2ksbF3icgU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2017-03-17, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>
> In article <ej2eakF2dfrU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger  <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found a page on Apple's support site about iCloud Keychain, which
>>> is the program I got that warning from. 
>>
>>What warning? iCloud Keychain has nothing to do with your mail issue!
>
> The warning that said if I removed an Internet account on my iMac,
> iCloud Keychain would also remove it from my MacBook.

Ah I see the message you are talking about - something like:

Do you want to remove the IMAP account "blah@blah.com" from
all your computers using iCloud Keychain or turn it off on only this
Mac?

It's peculiar that they even mention keychain in that message.

>>> Under System Preferences --> iCloud, "Keychain" was checked on my
>>> MacBook Air. (But not on my iMac, which is weird. I don't know how
>>> my iMac knew about Keychain, much less that the MacBook was using
>>> it.) 
>>
>>Both were signed into the same Apple account with the feature enabled.
>>That's how it's supposed to work.
>
> But I only found Keychain enabled on the MacBook, not on the iMac.

The MacBook was probably the one where you signed into iCloud during the
install (setup assistant), which would have enabled a base set of iCloud
features for you automatically.

>>> So I deactivated Keychain on the MacBook, 
>>
>>There's no reason to do that since it had nothing to do with your
>>issue; and by turning it off you are making things harder on yourself,
>>because Safari and other apps won't have access to stored credentials
>>in the keychain, which means rather than automatically filling in
>>usernames and passwords, you will now have to type them in manually.
>>Why needlessly do that to yourself?
>
> Firefox remembers passwords just fine for the sites I want it to do
> that for.

That's not the same thing at all. Both Safai and Firefox have the
ability to store credentials *locally*. What iCloud Keychain does is
place your remembered credentials securely in the cloud, such that they
are shared with all of your Apple devices. So you can sign into a web
site on your Mac, walk away, and log into the site with your iPad
without having to enter any credentials. Also, other apps on your iPad
can also get their credentials from iCloud Keychain. So it's a huge
productivity booster.

> Some sites I don't allow stored passwords for. I don't use Safari so
> have no need for iCloud to store anything for that program.

You don't use Safari on your iOS devices? And surely there are other
apps that could benefit from accessing credentials in the keychain. I
don't think you realize what you are missing.

-- 
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JR

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More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-15 22:54 +0000
  Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-16 15:17 +0000
    Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-16 13:38 -0400
  Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-16 13:18 -0400
    Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-16 18:57 +0000
      Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-16 15:30 -0400
        Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-16 22:19 +0000
          Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-16 18:44 -0400
            Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-16 22:59 +0000
              Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-16 19:32 -0400
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:41 +0000
              Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-16 23:36 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-17 06:10 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-17 03:54 -0400
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-17 17:04 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 15:40 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-17 17:00 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 17:31 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-17 20:51 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-17 22:23 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-18 01:40 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-18 04:16 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-18 05:18 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-18 15:01 +0000
                Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-18 14:52 +0000
          Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 21:28 -0400
            Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-17 05:37 +0000
          Re: More mailbox problems with Mail Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2017-03-17 11:36 -0400

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