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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? |
| Date | 2016-12-04 06:02 +0000 |
| Organization | People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates |
| Message-ID | <eahprsFrs5vU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <291120161828475976%nospam@nospam.invalid> <slrno3s8ou.1s71.g.kreme@snow.local> <ea6usbF9ovmU1@mid.individual.net> <583e6990$0$51650$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com> <o209bt$3im$1@reader2.panix.com> |
On 2016-12-04, billy@MIX.COM <billy@MIX.COM> wrote: > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> writes: > >> You're assuming that you will notice it crapping out. Unlike spinning >> rust discs, an SSD will continue to remain readable after writes become >> a problem. > > There is so much bullshit in this thread. I'm not going to read it all, > but here is an example of writes not failing but a read does (an OWC SSD, > although that's relevant only because I have dozens of them and this is > only the second one to have a problem) (pardon my not wrapping the text, > viewing with a 132 column wide screen is suggested) - > > disk0s2: I/O error. > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [ErrType IO] [ErrNo 5] [IOType Read] [PBlkNum 73046760] [LBlkNum 176045] > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [DevNode /dev/disk0s2] [MountPt /] [Path /private/var/db/systemstats/snapshots.db] > disk0s2: I/O error. > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [ErrType IO] [ErrNo 5] [IOType Read] [PBlkNum 73046760] [LBlkNum 176045] > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [DevNode /dev/disk0s2] [MountPt /] [Path /private/var/db/systemstats/snapshots.db] > disk0s2: I/O error. > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [ErrType IO] [ErrNo 5] [IOType Read] [PBlkNum 73046760] [LBlkNum 176045] > 0 [Level 3] [Facility com.apple.system.fs] [DevNode /dev/disk0s2] [MountPt /] [Path /private/var/db/systemstats/snapshots.db] > > I'm now at 15,855 of these errors. The system remains quite usable - I'm > posting this note with it, email is fine, etc. I'm guessing the defect > managemant (bad block replacement) is failing coz the bad block here can't > be read. > >> But you may encounter a situation where after saving a document, the >> middle 4 blocks contain invalid data because the SSD was unable to write >> those 4 blocks and nobody noticed. > > That'd only be because you ignored the error message thrown into the middle > of your screen. > >> This isn't FUD > > Sure it is. > > Imagining shit that does not exist is... Ummm... F.U.D. No shit. Anyone who thinks a modern OS *won't* let you know when a read or write fails is an idiot. There's nothing new to see here folks. Move along. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 14:55 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-27 20:07 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 20:18 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-27 20:32 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-27 20:56 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 02:09 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 23:36 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 07:31 -0500
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 14:32 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-28 21:05 +0100
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:39 +0000
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 23:56 +0000
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0600
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:38 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:37 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 01:47 +0000
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-28 02:07 -0500
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 00:54 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-30 07:19 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 16:38 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 00:44 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-30 21:11 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 03:34 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-01 12:55 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-01 16:51 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-01 18:46 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-01 19:37 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-02 00:46 -0500
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Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 01:04 -0800
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-12-02 08:06 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 08:50 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-03 15:07 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-03 15:16 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 10:57 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 17:06 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 17:25 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 00:32 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 21:19 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2016-12-03 21:39 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-12-03 19:41 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 21:26 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 05:59 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-04 21:48 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 18:01 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-05 22:17 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 10:51 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-02 10:28 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 08:48 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-03 15:02 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-02 17:54 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 00:08 -0800
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 16:10 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 12:47 -0800
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 21:53 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-30 07:55 -0600
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-30 11:12 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 16:44 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-30 17:14 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 00:53 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-01 12:58 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-30 20:15 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? billy@MIX.COM - 2016-12-04 05:25 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 06:02 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 02:00 -0500
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 18:42 +0000
Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:10 -0800
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