Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ?

Subject	Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ?
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From	Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date	2016-12-01 19:37 -0500
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On 2016-12-01 18:46, JF Mezei wrote:
> On 2016-12-01 16:51, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> What precisely does OS X do that confirms correct recording of a sector
>> (or block) write?  Does it read the sector ( or block) back?  That is
>> the sole way to verify to perfection that there was not a write failure.
>
> A disk read immediately after a disk write
<s>

Not what I asked.

>>
>> I can't find anything online showing how OS X detects a disk write
>> failure.  Any deep references?
>
>
> When you di a disk image backup, it has a separate disk verificatio
<s>

Not what I asked.

Before you can get even close to your answer you have to know what 
happens in a normal write operation.

Most OS's do not verify that a write was successful down to the media in 
the course of a normal write.  But I don't know in detail how 
Unix/BSD/OSX does it.

Further, what (if any) "improvements" Apple (or others have) made wrt to 
SSD's.

But really: you're obsessing over media failure when you should be 
reviewing your backup plan and implementation.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 14:55 -0500
  Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-27 20:07 +0000
    Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 20:18 -0500
      Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-27 20:32 -0500
        Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
          Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-27 20:56 -0500
            Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 02:09 +0000
          Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0000
            Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-27 23:36 -0500
              Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 07:31 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-28 13:41 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 14:32 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? android <here@there.was> - 2016-11-28 21:05 +0100
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:39 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-28 18:52 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 23:56 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-28 19:06 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-28 18:30 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:38 +0000
              Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 20:37 +0000
      Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-28 01:47 +0000
      Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-28 06:31 +0000
        Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-28 02:07 -0500
          Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-29 01:40 +0000
          Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 14:56 -0800
            Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 18:28 -0500
              Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-30 00:52 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-30 03:20 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 00:54 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-30 07:19 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 16:38 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 00:44 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-30 21:11 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 03:34 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-01 12:55 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-01 16:51 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-01 18:46 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-01 19:37 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-02 00:46 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-02 01:42 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 01:04 -0800
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-12-02 08:06 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 08:50 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-03 15:07 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-03 15:16 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 10:57 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 17:06 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 17:25 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 00:32 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 21:19 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2016-12-03 21:39 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-12-03 19:41 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-03 21:26 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 05:59 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-04 21:48 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 18:01 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2016-12-05 22:17 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 10:51 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-02 10:28 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-03 08:48 -0500
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                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-02 17:54 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 00:08 -0800
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 16:10 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2016-12-05 12:47 -0800
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 21:53 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-11-30 07:55 -0600
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-30 11:12 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-30 16:44 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-30 17:14 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-01 00:53 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-01 12:58 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-30 20:15 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? billy@MIX.COM - 2016-12-04 05:25 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 06:02 +0000
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 02:00 -0500
                Re: How does OS-X behave with a dead SSD ? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 18:42 +0000
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