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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: encrypted swap file |
| Date | 2015-10-08 22:00 +0000 |
| Organization | People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates |
| Message-ID | <d7o7bpFh12eU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2015-10-08, John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> wrote: > On 10/8/15 4:41 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-10-08, John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> wrote: >>> On 10/7/15 11:01 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> On 10/7/15 8:24 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-10-08, John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not seeing it now. I have no swap files, although there are 326 >>>>>>> pageins. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pageins don't decrease performance. Pageouts, on the other hand... >>>>> >>>>> Darn, why can't I type what I mean! I meant pageouts. Now it's 50,000, >>>>> but still no swap file. Where do pageouts go? >>>> >>>> 50,000 is pretty high. How long has it been up since the last time this >>>> machine was rebooted? How much RAM is installed in the machine? >>> >>> I have 4 GB. I rebooted yesterday. By the time I shut down, I had 30 >>> MB in a 1GB encrypted swap file, and no problem. >>> >>> I restarted today. There's no swap file, but pageouts have climbed to >>> 1048. Is it buggy reporting? >> >> Pageouts are an indication that you are running stuff that demands more >> RAM than you have available. If you see this pattern continue, and want >> to improve performance, you should add more RAM to the machine. >> > I haven't seen much paging out before El Capitan. > > Today, I haven't run much, just Mail, Thunderbird, and a couple of > Safari pages. Memory pressure has always been green, yet Menu Meters > shows 1118 pageouts. 1118 is in the normal range. 50,000 within a day is pretty high. Note that the counter starts at boot, so the longer your machine runs, the higher the number will go. > It also says there's no swap file. I'm not sure why you are so fixated on whether there is a swap file - it's inconsequential. > It looks buggy to me. If Raging Menace writes an El Capitan version, > maybe that will fix it. What looks buggy? The Menu Meters swap file widget? That wouldn't surprise me. I used to use it and it was rather buggy compared with other alternatives. > I haven't found any pageout information in Activity Monitor. I wonder > why it's not listed. Memory pressure is more useful as an indicator of low memory. If you want to see pageouts, you can run this command in a terminal window: # memory_pressure The system has 2147483648 (524288 pages with a page size of 4096). Stats: Pages free: 608814 Pages purgeable: 48670 Pages purged: 215939 Swap I/O: Swapins: 0 Swapouts: 0 Page Q counts: Pages active: 1671406 Pages inactive: 1052830 Pages speculative: 25052 Pages throttled: 0 Pages wired down: 310858 Compressor Stats: Pages used by compressor: 131 Pages decompressed: 0 Pages compressed: 199 File I/O: Pageins: 8613910 Pageouts: 161 System-wide memory free percentage: 91% > Hmmm.... maybe Menu Meters is reporting compression as pageouts. No idea. I haven't used Menu Meter in a few years. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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Re: encrypted swap file JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-08 16:44 -0400
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Re: encrypted swap file John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2015-10-08 20:07 -0400
Re: encrypted swap file Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 17:43 -0700
Re: encrypted swap file Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 16:54 -0700
Re: encrypted swap file Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:22 +0000
Re: encrypted swap file John Somerset <somerset@nospam.com> - 2015-10-07 21:58 -0400
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