Re: El Capitan oddities

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: El Capitan oddities
Date	2015-10-08 20:21 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<d7o1hlFfb2kU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-10-08, Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <d7nnjfFct0iU7@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-08, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> some of them move. not all. it depends on which api they used, which is
>>> why menumeters has problems in el capitan.
>> 
>> Right. Menu extras that do not use private internal APIs can be moved.
>> iStat Menus has no such problem.
>
> This is simply not the case.

I stated it backwards - brain fart - but it's correct. Menu extras that
use the private internal NSMenuExtra API can be moved (most use this
API), while status items using the NSStatusItem API cannot be moved.

> AFAICT, no third party menu items are moveable. 

Nah. Plenty third-party menu extras are movable:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/usenet/menubar/dragging_menu_extras.mp4>

> On my mac I have the following third party menulets installed 
> and none of them are moveable: Murus, 1Password, Parallels, Xmenu, and 
> Popchar Pro.

Those are *application* status items which are created using the
NSStatusItem API. That's why you cannot move them. They also go away
when the owning application process (which can be a background process)
exits.

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JR

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Re: El Capitan oddities Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-06 20:59 -0400
  Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 00:59 +0000
    Re: El Capitan oddities Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-07 18:54 -0400
      Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:21 +0000
      Re: El Capitan oddities Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 17:57 -0700
        Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 17:24 +0000
          Re: El Capitan oddities nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:27 -0400
            Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 17:31 +0000
              Re: El Capitan oddities "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 13:51 -0600
                Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 20:21 +0000
                Re: El Capitan oddities dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-10-09 12:10 +1300
                Re: El Capitan oddities Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-09 17:01 +0000
          Re: El Capitan oddities Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 10:42 -0700

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