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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: El Capitan oddities
Date: 8 Oct 2015 20:21:09 GMT
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On 2015-10-08, Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <d7nnjfFct0iU7@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-10-08, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> some of them move. not all. it depends on which api they used, which is
>>> why menumeters has problems in el capitan.
>> 
>> Right. Menu extras that do not use private internal APIs can be moved.
>> iStat Menus has no such problem.
>
> This is simply not the case.

I stated it backwards - brain fart - but it's correct. Menu extras that
use the private internal NSMenuExtra API can be moved (most use this
API), while status items using the NSStatusItem API cannot be moved.

> AFAICT, no third party menu items are moveable. 

Nah. Plenty third-party menu extras are movable:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/usenet/menubar/dragging_menu_extras.mp4>

> On my mac I have the following third party menulets installed 
> and none of them are moveable: Murus, 1Password, Parallels, Xmenu, and 
> Popchar Pro.

Those are *application* status items which are created using the
NSStatusItem API. That's why you cannot move them. They also go away
when the owning application process (which can be a background process)
exits.

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