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Re: Better to wait for 10.11?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Better to wait for 10.11?
Date 2015-09-14 14:54 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <d5o5c9Femp7U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-09-14, Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <d5lr2cFqv1tU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-13, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> list the other kexts that are not signed:
>> >
>> > EyeTV 3.6.8 installs five unsigned hardware drivers in
>> > /System/Library/Extensions. Mavericks and Yosemite simply treat them as
>> > not loadable. The El Capitan installer will move them to
>> > /Library/Extensions; but I have already tried that (as well as putting
>> > symbolic links to them in /System/Extensions), and it didn't work. EyeTV
>> > still wants to install them in the System folder at every launch. 
>> >
>> > I don't have any of the relevant hardware, so EyeTV launched and ran
>> > properly when I (experimentally) declined the installation dialogs. But
>> > this would be a PITA for anybody running EyeTV in El Capitan. Presumably
>> > (?) Elgato will fix this before El Capitan's official release. 
>> 
>> You found one. Congrats. There's certainly nothing at all preventing
>> Elgato from fixing that issue themselves - even today, before El Capitan
>> is released. Apple has very detailed documentation here:
>> 
>> <https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/>
>> 
>> I own an EyeTV hardware product and have used their software
>> extensively. It is notoriously buggy and not well designed, and their
>> updates historically have lagged behind OS updates, often leaving users
>> with broken functionality while we wait for them to release fixes. It
>> wouldn't surprise mt to see the same thing happen with El Capitan.
>
> SteerMouse and Little Snitch also put kext's into 
> /System/Library/Extensions.

Little Snitch has already been updated to work in El Capitan:

<https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/releasenotes-nightly.html>

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Better to wait for 10.11? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-09-11 23:26 +0000
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-11 19:31 -0400
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-11 23:38 +0000
    Re: Better to wait for 10.11? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-09-12 01:10 +0000
      Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-12 17:31 -0400
        Re: Better to wait for 10.11? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-09-13 20:20 +0000
      Re: Better to wait for 10.11? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-09-14 23:48 +0000
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-11 16:45 -0700
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-11 20:00 -0400
    Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 00:08 +0000
    Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 00:11 +0000
      Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-11 20:15 -0400
        Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 00:26 +0000
      Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-11 21:23 -0400
        Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-11 21:38 -0400
        Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 15:50 +0000
          Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 15:54 +0000
          Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-12 11:55 -0400
            Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-12 16:04 +0000
          Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-12 13:57 -0400
            Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-12 14:11 -0400
              Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-13 11:27 -0600
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 17:45 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-13 13:08 -0600
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-09-13 19:15 -0700
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 14:54 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-09-14 12:35 +1200
            Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-13 09:23 +0000
              Re: Better to wait for 10.11? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-09-13 23:41 +1200
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-13 12:17 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-13 12:25 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 12:46 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 16:59 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-13 15:03 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 19:13 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-13 15:06 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 19:43 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-13 13:14 -0700
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 20:16 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-13 13:18 -0700
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 20:21 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-13 19:33 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-13 19:35 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 00:54 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 00:53 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2015-09-14 13:19 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 14:57 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 16:11 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 20:15 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-13 16:19 -0400
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-13 14:51 -0600
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-13 21:01 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-09-14 12:35 +1200
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 00:57 +0000
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-14 01:37 -0600
                Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-09-14 14:54 +0000
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-09-12 12:11 -0600
  Re: Better to wait for 10.11? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-12 17:26 -0400

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