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Re: Smokers are smarter, I say.

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On 5/7/17, 3:59 PM, in article op.yzv4tsh4js98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson
Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

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>>>>> So even worse then, I still have no idea which CPU is in it so I can
>>>>> compare the speed of the mac to anything else.  GHz is NOT a clear
>>>>> indicator of speed as you can see from the chart I linked to.
>>>>> 
>>>> Did someone say otherwise? If so, whom?
>>> 
>>> Apple, by only giving you the GHz.
>> 
>> As shown to you repeatedly this is not even close to the case.
> 
> They don't state the model of i5 used, they are withholding information, and
> therefore not to be trusted.

When asked what information this would give you OTHER than what Apple
provides you have no answer. Knowing an internal number used by Intel does
not tell you anything else about the processor... and we have gone over
this.

If you can actually come up with a value that Intel number gives you that
Apple does not please let me know.

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>> You have yet to say what that offers you that Apple does not directly give
>> you. We are down to you just whining that you want a number that tells you
>> NOTHING about the system that Apple does not have directly and clearly
>> listed. You want them to hold your hand to get a chip number that offers no
>> value you can list.
> 
> I want to know what I'm buying.

Are you buying a Mac? Of so which one? I will show you how YOU can find
which Intel number corresponds to the specs Apple provides.
 
... 
>>>>>> Here are the MacBook Pros  <https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It lists:
>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>     * 2.0GHz dual-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz,
>>>>>>       with 4MB shared L3 cache
>>>>>>     * Intel Iris Graphics 540
>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What more do you need to know? How many Intel options are there like
>>>>>> that? As far as I know that limits it to the Core i5-6360U.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> So you had to do research to find out which CPU MIGHT be in it.
>>>>> 
>>>> Of course I had to do "research" and look at Apple's page to get those
>>>> specs! It is not like I have it memorized for all of their machines! But,
>>>> for crying out loud, does Dell come to your house and tell you the specs
>>>> when you mention a machine? NO! You have to go to their site, too!
>>> 
>>> I go to their site and they tell me precisely what CPU they use.  I don't
>>> have to guess like you're doing.
>>> 
>> I would *much* more want to know it is a 2.0GHz dual-core Intel Core i5,
>> Turbo Boost up to 3.1GHz, with 4MB shared L3 cache and an Intel Iris Graphics
>> 540 than to know it is a Core i5-6360U. But, really, either one is telling
>> you the same thing... just with the latter you have to do research to know
>> more to compare it to other CPUs.
> 
> The precise model tells you how good it is.

Based on finding the specs for that model... which Apple tells you.

So you can get the number to get the specs or you can get the specs
directly. Apple gives the specs directly.

You want to know an arbitrary number you can use to find the specs. Apple
instead gives you the specs. You then whine they do not hold your hand and
help you find a number that you cannot even say why you want.

So be it.

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-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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