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Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution)

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution)
Date 2017-04-25 13:18 -0700
Message-ID <D524FD3A.A1B88%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/25/17, 12:26 PM, in article pi7vfc9986lp0u9d65jet9r6954e3tp809@4ax.com,
"Ken Blake" <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 13:31:49 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:48:15 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:17:17 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>>> wrote:
> 
>>>> Do you have exaggerated examples of what you think those three vowel
>>>> sounds are? Exaggerated, because otherwise the differences might be too
>>>> subtle.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll try, but my examples may be misunderstood:
>>> 
>>> "Marry" to rhyme with "Harry" or "Barry" or "Larry" or "Cary" or
>>>       "Gary" or "tarry"
>>> "Merry" to rhyme with "berry" or "very" or "ferry"
>>> "Mary" to rhyme with "hairy"
>> 
>> Thanks for trying, but those all sound alike to me.
> 
> OK, I suspected that might be the case.

I hear those with some differences... but they are subtle.
>> 
>>> And note that this not what I think the vowel sound *are*.  It's not a
>>> matter of right or wrong; it's what I think is the way they are most
>>> commonly pronounced in the US.
>>> 
>>> And by the way, I once worked with a woman from North Carolina, who
>>> one day said something to me about "flahs." I had no idea what "flahs"
>>> were, so I asked her to repeat the word. She did several times; I
>>> still didn't understand, and she got madder and madder at me.
>>> 
>>> Finally she said something like " 'flahs'; you know, roses, tulips,
>>> carnations," and I understood.
>>> 
>>> That wasn't a matter or right or wrong either. Like  "marry," "merry,"
>>> and "Mary," not all Americans pronounce "flowers" the same way.
>> 
>> I have no problems with southern accents,
> 
> I had no problem understanding anything else she said. It was just
> that word; not only did it sound different from what I was accustomed
> to, she turned it into a single-syllable word. Does everyone in North
> Carolina pronounce it that way or was it just her? I have no idea.

I was born in Alabama, though I moved the week I turned six and do not know
the accent well. I have heard stories from my parents with similar
challenges, though off hand cannot think of specific two syllable words
which were said with just one. I know they had a hard time understanding the
word "floor" which they heard as "flow".

>> but I struggle with some of the Cajun people, from deep in the bayou south of
>> New Orleans. That's barely English to me.
>> 
> I have very little experience with anyone Cajun, so I can't comment on that.
> 
> I have no problem with any kind of accent, unless it's from someone with a
> job that requires him to communicate with me, telling me things I need to
> know. There are many airports in the US where announcements are made by people
> with Spanish accents, and there are many telephone help desks where the people
> speak with Indian accents. I am certainly not against anybody who speaks
> Spanish or Hindi (I wish I could speak a second language as fluently as they
> do), and I have no problem with their having good jobs, but if their accents
> are heavy enough that they are hard to understand, I am against their having
> those particular jobs.

Agreed. I tend to understand accents reasonably well. When my wife is on the
phone with someone she cannot understand she often asks me to join the
conversation as an "interpreter". Does not mean I always can understand
perfectly, but I can better than she can.

> I remember once at the Microsoft campus in Redmond attending a lecture given
> by someone (I can't remember his name, but I think he was a VP) with a heavy
> Indian accent. It was a very interesting subject, and I think he probably did
> a good job with it, but it was all wasted on me, since I understood very
> little. I mentioned it to another Microsoft employee, and she got very angry
> with me, calling me a racist. Sigh. Perhaps I didn't do a good job of
> explaining what I meant, but she completely misunderstood me.

I am quite "progressive" and intolerant to pretty much any form of bigotry
but, no, being unable to understand someone's accent is not in any way
racist or bigoted. That is just absurd.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 08:12 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-23 12:10 -0400
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 11:53 -0700
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      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 11:56 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 10:09 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 13:12 -0400
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                Anything (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Carl J <this.is.not.email@dummy.invalid> - 2017-04-23 18:19 -0500
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 09:22 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:29 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 10:12 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 12:04 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 12:38 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 18:38 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:47 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 22:17 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 21:38 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-26 02:03 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 08:54 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 09:23 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:30 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 11:42 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 14:16 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 16:27 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 16:39 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:29 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 14:17 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 16:32 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 17:14 -0700
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                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 09:24 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-25 18:17 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-25 18:24 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-25 22:51 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 18:32 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:53 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-25 17:59 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:30 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-25 23:00 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 22:26 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 09:28 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-26 12:35 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 11:45 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-26 17:23 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-26 17:15 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-25 22:46 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 19:54 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:03 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 14:29 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:02 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 12:04 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-30 18:13 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-30 17:26 +0000
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-30 11:46 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 12:00 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:17 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:19 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:24 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 13:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 14:55 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-23 18:24 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:36 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 13:28 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:40 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-23 15:47 -0400
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 13:35 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-23 18:28 -0500
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ron C <r.capik@verizon.net> - 2017-04-23 20:11 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:10 -0500
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:33 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 14:58 -0700
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 17:59 -0400
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 15:09 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 16:14 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:32 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-23 16:42 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:42 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 16:49 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-24 17:17 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 17:32 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:04 +0100
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:06 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:08 +0100
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:11 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:07 -0500
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 14:28 +0100
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:00 -0500
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 10:34 -0700
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 19:18 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 11:24 -0700
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                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 15:19 -0500
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