Re: Poor "Snit"

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Poor "Snit"
Date	2017-04-21 09:36 -0700
Message-ID	<D51F8311.A0A58%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/21/17, 9:24 AM, in article ImqKA.16034$sn6.912@fx44.iad, "Silver
Slimer" <sl@im.er> wrote:

>>>> there is no lack of freedom on a mac. anyone can do whatever the hell
>>>> they want with it.
>>>> 
>>>> there's actually *more* freedom with a mac because a mac can natively
>>>> run all mac, windows, linux and bsd apps, the widest choice of any
>>>> platform.
>>> 
>>> He's referring to the freedom to choose your GUI as well as how the GUI
>>> will function. Linux users have that, Mac users don't.
>> 
>> choosing a gui doesn't get work done any faster. it doesn't make anyone
>> more productive.
> 
> If it ends up being more comfortable to you, it might but I have to
> admit that there is no real evidence that it does.
> 
>> and mac users *can* change their gui, it's just that there is no
>> compelling reason to do so.
> 
> Originality, I guess. In the end I agree that you use the OS to get at
> the software so it doesn't matter how the OS' interface is as long as
> the program can function. Whether it runs in OS X, Linux or Windows is
> admittedly inconsequential.

Not quite. Let's look at Scrivener (suggested by ronb):
<https://youtu.be/mkaSjCpbwuQ>. There are clear pros and cons based on the
OS it is running on and the tools the environment provides. Some, like the
icon, are not really a big deal for usage, but others are:

Mac:

* It has the "drag-and-drop" style installation

* It has a high-resolution icon

* Hot Keys and Menu Items: all have the cut/copy/paste/print/save
  Application > Preferences (showed tabs on top)
  Application > Services (add paragraph)
  File > Save As
  File > Print (showed PDF Services, preview, etc.)
  File > Quit / Quit and Keep Windows
  Edit > Paste and Match Style
  Edit > Spelling
  Edit > Start Speaking
  Edit > Start Dictation
  Edit > Emoji & Symbols
  View > Hide Toolbar
  View > Customize Toolbar (and right click to get to that as well)
  View > Full Screen integration with "Spaces" (virtual desktops)
  Format > Font > Show Fonts and settings (including color)
  Format > Font > Ligatures
  Help > Search (use Quit -- also shows Quit and Keep Windows)

* Ties into the system-wide "look up" feature (spelling, Wikipedia,
  maps, etc.)

* Uses the standard "save indicator" (though it autosaves)

* The title bar works to show path on right click

* The proxy icon works (dragged to Mail)
  Quick Look in Mail
  Quick Look on Desktop

* It works fine when you rename the open file outside the program

* Open > Recent Projects is not confused by name changes

* Color selection in general

Linux:

* Window widgets (things such as window shade and keeping the window
  on top)
  
* Copy on select (a mixed blessing)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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