Re: Perian still needed?

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Subject	Re: Perian still needed?
Date	2016-10-16 17:00 -0400
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In article <7K2dnUmhEYYYdZ7FnZ2dnUU7-XHNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>>>>>>> I've had Perian on this Mac and prior further back than
> >>>>>>>> I can remember.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Question is ... is it needed to assure playback of
> >>>>>>>> (almost) all video formats in QT 7?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven't had Perian installed in years. No problems
> >>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just de-installed it.  Most formats work but not .avi.  So
> >>>>>> I've re-installed it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> avi is a container, not a format, and they play perfectly
> >>>>> fine without perian.
> >>>>
> >>>> Aside from the pedantry over format/container,
> >>>
> >>> it's not pedantry. the difference is very significant. an avi (as
> >>> well as quicktime) can contain media content in any of a variety
> >>> of formats.
> >>
> >> Most descriptions of AVI go something like: "... is a multimedia
> >> container format introduced by Microsoft "
> >>
> >> So calling one or the other isn't changing much except to pedants.
> >
> > there's a very significant difference, which you clearly do not
> > understand. a container can contain any of a number of formats. it
> > is absolutely *not* pedantic by any stretch of the imagination.
> 
> Most certainly is - esp. in the current context.

nope. you're wrong, and once again, refuse to admit it.

there is a *very* big difference between a container and the format
that is contained.

> >>> a standard quicktime install will play industry standard formats
> >>> (mpeg, etc.), including avi. however, avi often contains
> >>> microsoft proprietary formats, such as wmv/wma, in which case you
> >>> need a codec.
> >>
> >> Which Perian seems to provide, one way or another.
> >
> > it can, but it's not as good as flip4mac.
> 
> "As good"?  Perian is completely transparent and immediate.  As I recall 
> flip4mac there would be a long conversion delay before the video would 
> play.  Dumped a long time ago.

there's a setting to convert beforehand or convert on the fly, and with
the latter, there is no delay. in other words, user error.

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Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 14:06 -0400
  Re: Perian still needed? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-16 18:11 +0000
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 14:58 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 12:15 -0700
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:16 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 15:26 -0400
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:42 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 15:48 -0400
            Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:57 -0400
              Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 16:40 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 13:50 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 16:52 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:52 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 17:00 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 17:33 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 14:37 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 18:10 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 17:49 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 21:00 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:29 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:29 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-17 17:38 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:42 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 09:31 +0200
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:01 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-18 17:07 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 17:11 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 16:27 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:17 +0000
            Re: Perian still needed? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-17 23:12 -0400
              Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:01 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:14 +0000
      Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 13:22 -0700
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:27 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:33 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:12 +0000
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 19:16 -0400
  Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:11 +0000
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 19:18 -0400

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