Re: Perian still needed?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
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Subject	Re: Perian still needed?
Date	2016-10-16 16:40 -0400
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In article <-dadnVCAs9IyRp7FnZ2dnUU7-QPNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> >>>>>> I've had Perian on this Mac and prior further back than I can remember.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Question is ... is it needed to assure playback of (almost) all video
> >>>>>> formats in QT 7?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't had Perian installed in years. No problems here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just de-installed it.  Most formats work but not .avi.  So I've
> >>>> re-installed it.
> >>>
> >>> avi is a container, not a format, and they play perfectly fine without
> >>> perian.
> >>
> >> Aside from the pedantry over format/container,
> >
> > it's not pedantry. the difference is very significant. an avi (as well
> > as quicktime) can contain media content in any of a variety of formats.
> 
> Most descriptions of AVI go something like: "... is a multimedia 
> container format introduced by Microsoft "
>
> So calling one or the other isn't changing much except to pedants.

there's a very significant difference, which you clearly do not
understand. a container can contain any of a number of formats. it is
absolutely *not* pedantic by any stretch of the imagination.

> > a standard quicktime install will play industry standard formats (mpeg,
> > etc.), including avi. however, avi often contains microsoft proprietary
> > formats, such as wmv/wma, in which case you need a codec.
> 
> Which Perian seems to provide, one way or another.

it can, but it's not as good as flip4mac.

> >> I just tried 3 different
> >> .avi's and they do not play with QT or QT 7.  They show as playing (time
> >> increments) but there is no video and no sound.
> >
> > check its properties and find out what codec is needed and go from
> > there.
> 
> Or leave Perian installed.  Handles it quite well.

flip4mac is microsoft's official recommendation for wmv, given that
they co-developed it. perian is not.

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  Re: Perian still needed? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-16 18:11 +0000
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 14:58 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 12:15 -0700
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:16 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 15:26 -0400
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:42 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 15:48 -0400
            Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 15:57 -0400
              Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 16:40 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 13:50 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 16:52 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:52 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 17:00 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 17:21 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 17:33 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 14:37 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 18:10 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:32 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 17:49 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-16 21:00 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:29 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:29 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-17 17:38 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-17 17:42 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? MartinC <noreply@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 09:31 +0200
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:01 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-18 17:07 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 17:11 -0400
                Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 16:27 -0700
                Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:17 +0000
            Re: Perian still needed? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-17 23:12 -0400
              Re: Perian still needed? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 07:01 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:14 +0000
      Re: Perian still needed? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 13:22 -0700
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:27 -0400
          Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 16:33 -0400
      Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:12 +0000
        Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 19:16 -0400
  Re: Perian still needed? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:11 +0000
    Re: Perian still needed? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-16 19:18 -0400

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