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  The secondary is in fact a primary AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 00:09 -0700
    Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2011-08-22 07:19 -0500
      Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2011-08-22 10:14 -0700
    Re: The secondary is in fact a primary David <admin@confidential.com.au> - 2011-08-23 12:08 +1000
      Re: The secondary is in fact a primary AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 23:35 -0700
    Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-08-23 17:02 +0200
      Re: The secondary is in fact a primary AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-08-24 07:06 -0700
        Re: The secondary is in fact a primary David <admin@confidential.com.au> - 2011-08-25 09:12 +1000
        Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-08-25 08:50 +0200
          Re: The secondary is in fact a primary AD <isquat@gmail.com> - 2011-08-29 00:43 -0700
            Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2011-08-29 00:50 -0700
            Re: The secondary is in fact a primary Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2011-08-29 10:01 +0200

#605 — The secondary is in fact a primary

http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-location.html

great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
nav buttons are left on the "primary"

since the puny laptop screen, larger "secondary" is a common
arrangement you'd think
the primary migration to secondary would be a bit more complete.

Maybe in seaLion...

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#606

In article 
<afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dcf57@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-location.
> html
> 
> great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> 
> since the puny laptop screen, larger "secondary" is a common
> arrangement you'd think
> the primary migration to secondary would be a bit more complete.
> 
> Maybe in seaLion...

I'm not sure I understand what the problem is here.

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#607

In article <jollyroger-F3A29E.07194122082011@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dcf57@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
>  AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-locatio
> > n.
> > html
> > 
> > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> > 
> > since the puny laptop screen, larger "secondary" is a common
> > arrangement you'd think
> > the primary migration to secondary would be a bit more complete.
> > 
> > Maybe in seaLion...
> 
> I'm not sure I understand what the problem is here.

That was my reaction.

I /think/ he's referring to the fact that even if you move the menu bar 
onto the external display, the F-keys with their shortcuts to certain 
functions remain on the keyboard attached to the laptop's display.

-- 
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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#608

In article 
<afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dcf57@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-location.
> html
> 
> great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> 
> since the puny laptop screen, larger "secondary" is a common
> arrangement you'd think
> the primary migration to secondary would be a bit more complete.
> 
> Maybe in seaLion...

Hey this is simple, and it is available NOW.

Go to System prefs > Displays > Arrangement

You can select which of your monitors is on the left or right, and 
allows you to just drag the menu bar to whichever monitor you want it on

tsk tsk fancy thinking Apple wouldn't make that easy for you :-)

David

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#609

On Aug 23, 5:08 am, David <ad...@confidential.com.au> wrote:
> In article
> <afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dc...@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-....
> > html
>
> > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
>
> > since the puny laptop screen, larger "secondary" is a common
> > arrangement you'd think
> > the primary migration to secondary would be a bit more complete.
>
> > Maybe in seaLion...
>
> Hey this is simple, and it is available NOW.
>
> Go to System prefs > Displays > Arrangement
>
> You can select which of your monitors is on the left or right, and
> allows you to just drag the menu bar to whichever monitor you want it on
>
Yeah, thanks, I figured out how to drag the menu bar to the secondary.
But the pesky little "previous" and "next" arrow buttons on the top
left remained on the config screen
of the primary. That's what the post was all about.

Oddly this morning the primary display on that macbook pro 2007 15"
did not wake up from sleep!!!!
I'm typing this from the current run of the mill 1080x1920 secondary
(the glossy border looks like
an abomination with a thankfully glare free LCD panel. Of course it is
a Dell monitor
though I'm sure lack of taste is not exclusive to dell)

> tsk tsk fancy thinking Apple wouldn't make that easy for you :-)
>
> David

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#610

In article 
<afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dcf57@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-location.
> html
> 
> great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> nav buttons are left on the "primary"

What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?


-- 
Sandman[.net]

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#614

On Aug 23, 6:02 pm, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article
> <afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dc...@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-....
> > html
>
> > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
>
> What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
>
the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
with

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#619

In article 
<7496b3df-2b8f-4357-b69d-21ef8a4aeb3f@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 23, 6:02 pm, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <afe75e71-eb64-4971-8a83-3c01454dc...@w11g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-....
> > > html
> >
> > > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> >
> > What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
> >
> the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
> with

So why is that a problem.  Just close that panel and all is well

David

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#623

In article 
<7496b3df-2b8f-4357-b69d-21ef8a4aeb3f@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-....
> > > html
> >
> > > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> >
> > What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
> >
> the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
> with

Are you serious? This is some form of gripe for you?

Close and relaunch System Preferences. It will open in the X/Y 
position you last had it open at, which just so happens to be your 
secondary monitor right now.

Move it to your main monitor.

Close System Preferences

Open System Preferences

Viola, it is now on your main monitor. Go to Display -> Arrangement. 
Voila, the "nav buttons" are now on your main monitor and the 
secondary window is on your secondary monitor.

You're not seriously suggesting that an application should always open 
its main window on the main monitor - disregarding where the user has 
moved it to on the last launch?


-- 
Sandman[.net]

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#630

On Aug 25, 9:50 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> In article
> <7496b3df-2b8f-4357-b69d-21ef8a4ae...@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-....
> > > > html
>
> > > > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > > > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
>
> > > What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
>
> > the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
> > with
>
> Are you serious? This is some form of gripe for you?
>
> Close and relaunch System Preferences. It will open in the X/Y
> position you last had it open at, which just so happens to be your
> secondary monitor right now.
>
> Move it to your main monitor.
>
> Close System Preferences
>
> Open System Preferences
>
> Viola, it is now on your main monitor. Go to Display -> Arrangement.
> Voila, the "nav buttons" are now on your main monitor and the
> secondary window is on your secondary monitor.
>
> You're not seriously suggesting that an application should always open
> its main window on the main monitor - disregarding where the user has
> moved it to on the last launch?

No. It could just as well open in the last position recorded by quartz

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#631

In article 
<d5f416e5-7938-4fce-b6b7-973f9c4f8157@en1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 25, 9:50 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <7496b3df-2b8f-4357-b69d-21ef8a4ae...@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-..
> > > > >..
> > > > > html
> >
> > > > > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > > > > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> >
> > > > What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
> >
> > > the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
> > > with
> >
> > Are you serious? This is some form of gripe for you?
> >
> > Close and relaunch System Preferences. It will open in the X/Y
> > position you last had it open at, which just so happens to be your
> > secondary monitor right now.
> >
> > Move it to your main monitor.
> >
> > Close System Preferences
> >
> > Open System Preferences
> >
> > Viola, it is now on your main monitor. Go to Display -> Arrangement.
> > Voila, the "nav buttons" are now on your main monitor and the
> > secondary window is on your secondary monitor.
> >
> > You're not seriously suggesting that an application should always open
> > its main window on the main monitor - disregarding where the user has
> > moved it to on the last launch?
> 
> No. It could just as well open in the last position recorded by quartz

Where did you ever get the idea that Quartz records window positions?

-- 
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

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#632

In article 
<d5f416e5-7938-4fce-b6b7-973f9c4f8157@en1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
 AD <isquat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Aug 25, 9:50 am, Sandman <m...@sandman.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <7496b3df-2b8f-4357-b69d-21ef8a4ae...@c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >  AD <isq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >http://macdevelopertips.com/system/multiple-monitors-specifying-menu-..
> > > > >..
> > > > > html
> >
> > > > > great, the menu bar is on the larger monitor. The system preferences
> > > > > nav buttons are left on the "primary"
> >
> > > > What, exactly, is the "System Preferences nav buttons"?
> >
> > > the implements you swim back and forth through the system preferences
> > > with
> >
> > Are you serious? This is some form of gripe for you?
> >
> > Close and relaunch System Preferences. It will open in the X/Y
> > position you last had it open at, which just so happens to be your
> > secondary monitor right now.
> >
> > Move it to your main monitor.
> >
> > Close System Preferences
> >
> > Open System Preferences
> >
> > Viola, it is now on your main monitor. Go to Display -> Arrangement.
> > Voila, the "nav buttons" are now on your main monitor and the
> > secondary window is on your secondary monitor.
> >
> > You're not seriously suggesting that an application should always open
> > its main window on the main monitor - disregarding where the user has
> > moved it to on the last launch?
> 
> No. It could just as well open in the last position recorded by quartz

Which, of course, it does. 


-- 
Sandman[.net]

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