Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models

From	dgb (David) <david@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups	alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: [NEWS] Apple releases M3 MacBook Air models
Date	2024-03-06 21:20 +0000
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On 6 Mar 2024 at 20:55:46 GMT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> On 2024-03-06 08:07:38 +0000, dgb (David) said:
>> On 6 Mar 2024 at 04:45:43 GMT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-05 22:07:29 +0000, dgb (David) said:
>>>> On 5 Mar 2024 at 21:17:11 GMT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-05 15:42, dgb (David) wrote:
>>>>>> On 5 Mar 2024 at 19:52:40 GMT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since I have an M3 iMac and it uses more memory for the same load of
>>>>>>> apps compared to my i7 iMac, my understanding of it exceeds yours on
>>>>>>> this - as it does on most subjects.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have 27 inch iMac. I've looked and played with a new M3 iMac in our
>>>>>> local Apple Store.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When you have each one of them there in front of you, regardless of the
>>>>>> technicalities, which screen do you prefer to be sitting in front of?
>>>>>> How does each make you /feel/ please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hard to answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The resolution quality of the M3 iMac is to the point where pixels
>>>>> cannot be resolved with the naked eye. It is magnificently crisp and
>>>>> contrast perfect at the default setting of 2240 x 1260.  All fonts look
>>>>> perfectly smooth.  Very easy on the eyes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is usable at 2560 x 1440, but only if the screen is pretty close (at
>>>>> least with my eyes - I don't need glasses to read, but this rez on the
>>>>> 24" iMac is just a little too tight (unless I would increase font sizes
>>>>> which would be pretty much a return to the other resolution)).  This is
>>>>> likely more a personal thing so YMMV.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4480 x 2520 is not usable, really.  Again one could blow up the font
>>>>> sizes for reading - but not much point to it.  Perhaps in some graphics
>>>>> usages and workflow this would be a useful resolution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would have preferred 27".  On the i7 iMac 27", 2560x1440 and it's very
>>>>> nice.  Lean in and you can see pixels.  Lean in mind you.  It's a very
>>>>> nice display on that old 2012 iMac (not Retina).  For all non-video
>>>>> work, the 2012 iMac suited my needs just fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Still a killer processor.  But.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When editing/rendering 1080p video of any length, it is too tedious.
>>>>> Such on the M3 iMac is a whiz.  (Though I still wish it was a higher
>>>>> spec in number of cores).  As a benchmark, it is almost 3x faster to
>>>>> Handbrake a video on the M3 v. the i7 iMac (2012).
>>>>> 
>>>>> At some point I will gut the 27" of everything but the power supply and
>>>>> display panel and add an adaptor to turn it into an HDMI or DisplayPort
>>>>> display.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So in the end one makes adjustments to "real estate" on the screen,
>>>>> sizing of App windows, what goes to the side display (which I've changed
>>>>> to a Samsung 27" that I normally use for home lab use (Rasp Pi
>>>>> development).  It's so wide, that I only use the right 60% of it when
>>>>> using this iMac M3).
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for all the interesting detail, Alan.
>>>> 
>>>> My own is a 2017 iMac with a Retina display and I really don't want to
>>>> change it. However, I'm using macOS Ventura 13.6.4 and cannot move on
>>>> to Sonoma. I'm living in the hope that Apple may one day provide
>>>> another 27 inch desktop computer before this one dies! I'm also using
>>>> an old 24 inch iMac to run Linux Mint and it does this quite well. I'm
>>>> impressed with your intention to repurpose your old iMac! Good for you!
>>>> :-)
>>>> 
>>>> (ACW added for info to others)
>>> 
>>> The current reports say Apple are not planning on making a new 27in
>>> iMac or iMac Pro any time soon. There are dubious rumours that pop up
>>> from time to time, including going to 32in iMac.
>> 
>> That is my understanding too.
>> 
>>> You could of course buy a Mac Mini or Mac Studio and add whatever
>>> screen size you want. Not an "all-in-one", but depending on the
>>> screen's base or using a display stand, it can almost be.
>> 
>> My Professor friend has done exactly that!
>> The Studio Display is just wonderful - but expensive!
>> With iCloud storage being relatively cheap, there's no (apparent) need to have
>> lots of on-board storage nowadays.
> 
> You can buy a build-to-order Mac Mini or Mac Studio with up to 8TB
> internal storage from the Apple Store or a reseller ... if your bank
> account can stand it.

Ha! Understood.  :-)

> Long gone are the good old days of easily being able to add RAM or
> change drives or graphics cards in a Mac. It not even possible in the
> so-called "Mac Pro tower", making that just another pointless Mac
> model.   :-(

Thank you for emphasising that. Many folk get caught out by this.

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