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Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ??

From Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ??
Date 2025-11-19 11:26 +0100
Organization Camembert Normand au Lait Cru
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On 19.11.25 04:20, Your Name wrote:
> On 2025-11-18 22:28:57 +0000, Tyrone said:
>> On Nov 18, 2025 at 12:33:13 AM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-18 04:53:50 +0000, Tyrone said:
>>>> On Nov 17, 2025 at 9:14:15 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In the age of Apple Silicon the Mac Pro has been become a pretty
>>>>> pointless device thanks to having almost nothing that is upgradable -
>>>>> all you can really do is add more internal drives (which, considering
>>>>> Apple's rather stingy and high-priced built-in drives, was its only
>>>>> plus point). The number of people who need a PCI / similar slot for
>>>>> anything else is pretty miniscule these days.
>>>>
>>>> Makes sense. The big ugly tower with roaring fans and "slots" is a
>>>> relic of the Intel/Motorola/Power PC stone age. The huge motherboard
>>>> with RAM here and CPU over there and "slots" way over there is so 30
>>>> years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Everything integrated on a single chip is the present and the future.
>>>> It is faster, uses WAY less power, generates WAY less heat and fits
>>>> into a MUCH smaller case that MIGHT need a single, whisper-quiet,
>>>> low-speed fan.
>>>>
>>>> Plus, no other consumer product is "upgradeable".  TVs, microwave ovens,
>>>> refrigerators, cars, furniture, phones, watches, speakers, headphones etc.
>>>> You buy what you need now and can afford now.
>>>>
>>>> You want/need more later?   Buy a new, bigger one and sell the old one.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately that is the stupidity of today's selfish "throw away"
>>> society. In the long run it makes no real sense because it is more
>>> wasteful, more expensive, and uses up far more resources.  :-(\
>>
>> I did not say "throw it away".  I said sell it on eBay to help defray the cost
>> of the new one.
> 
> It's still getting rid of things, instead of upgrading or repairing
> things ... hence "throw away siciety".
> 
> 
> 
>> Also, a single chip is WAY less wasteful than hundreds of separate chips on
>> multiple huge boards. Those boards were each the size of a 14" screen today.
>> Could be even larger. Talk about waste.
> 
> Wasteful in the sense that you can't upgrade the CPU, GPU, RAM, etc.,
> so the whole device has to be gotten rid of and a whole new one bought.

With upgrades you can reduce the pain but not solve problems: Moore's 
law says that the performance of computers doubles every 18 months. 
After 2 cycles the mobo is outdated.

The concept of PC-towers died 20 years ago except for some very specific 
and borderline applications like *hardcore gaming* for instance.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita" (Augustinus)

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[RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-18 15:14 +1300
  Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-11-18 04:53 +0000
    Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-18 18:33 +1300
      Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-11-18 22:28 +0000
        Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-19 16:20 +1300
          Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-11-19 11:26 +0100
          Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-11-19 15:47 +0000
            Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-11-20 10:34 +1300
              Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-12-02 04:14 +0000
                Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-12-02 18:14 +1300
        Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-11-19 11:21 +0100
  Re: [RUMOUR] R.I.P. Mac Pro ?? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2025-12-13 12:09 -0500

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