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Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X?

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First post2015-08-18 20:56 -0700
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  Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-08-18 20:56 -0700
    Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-20 18:49 +1200
      Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-08-20 00:57 -0700
      Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-08-22 06:39 -0700
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-22 15:24 +0000
          Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-08-23 16:45 -0700
            Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 01:13 +0000
              Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-08-28 12:13 -0500
                Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-28 17:41 +0000
                  Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-08-28 14:00 -0500
            Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-24 14:21 +1200
            Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-24 00:32 -0700
              Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? android <here@there.was> - 2015-08-24 13:55 +0200
                Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 15:38 +0000
              Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-24 15:37 +0000
                Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-08-25 18:31 -0700
                  Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-26 13:53 +0000
                  Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-28 20:24 +0000
            Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-29 10:03 +1000
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-23 10:19 +1200
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-23 13:12 +1200
    Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-29 09:58 +1000
      Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-08-30 17:24 -0500
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-31 13:14 +1200
          Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-31 01:20 +0000
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-31 01:13 +0000
        Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-31 11:43 +1000
          Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-08-31 16:25 +1200
            Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-08-31 15:17 +1000
              Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-08-31 00:32 -0500
              Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-31 13:32 -0400
                Re: Simple/basic free screen ruler and graphic editor for Mac OS X? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-09-01 07:39 +1000

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#31188

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-08-23 13:12 +1200
Message-ID<230820151312361116%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#31177
In article <z9SdnSfG8JwH5kXInZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> 
> >> What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)
> >> and graphic editor for Mac OS X v10.10.5 (Yosemite)? This is for a
> >> Windows user who uses old Jasc's Paint Shop Pro, Paint.NET, etc. I tried
> >> a few like Pascal's old Free Ruler, but didn't like them. I am hoping
> >> you guys use better softwares that I haven't discovered yet. Also, is it
> >> me or is there no free screen ruler on Apple's App Store?
> >
> > A pixel measuring screen ruler probably isn't much use in these days of
> > multi-resolution displays and 4K displays. A 1cm long line would have a
> > different number of pixels on various screens.
> >
> > I don't know of any free paint applications, but this page might be
> > worth checking, although some of the apps my not work on newer Mac OS X
> > versions: http://alternativeto.net/software/paintnet/?platform=mac
> >
> > Pixelmator and GraphicConverter are the two graphic apps that most
> > people use (although GraphicConverter isn't great as an editor - it can
> > be frustratingly cumbersome).
> 
> Thanks. I'll retry Gimp (used it in Linux, but geez it is difficult and 
> complex when I tried it years ago -- maybe it got easier now?), Pinta, 
> and SeaShore (it hasn't been updated for years -- I hope it works in 
> v10.10.x/Yosemite well). :)

The other option is to go to emulation of old Macs. I'm still using an
old application called "ColorIt!" on my Mac (under Mac OS 9 via
Classic). It should work under the Sheepshaver emulator on Intel Macs.

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#31369

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-08-29 09:58 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-D54C91.09585329082015@aioe.org>
In reply to#31148
In article <oMKdnXXHl4XpY07InZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)

What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
with different resolutions?

-- 
dorayme

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#31532

FromANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Date2015-08-30 17:24 -0500
Message-ID<ae6dnfKtyNczH37InZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#31369
> > What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)

> What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
> one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
> own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
> with different resolutions?

Yes, but measure parts on the screen like icons, graphics, 
(font/text)s, etc.
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#31549

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-08-31 13:14 +1200
Message-ID<310820151314410877%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#31532
In article <ae6dnfKtyNczH37InZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)
> > 
> > What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
> > one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
> > own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
> > with different resolutions?
> 
> Yes, but measure parts on the screen like icons, graphics, 
> (font/text)s, etc.

As before and above ... different screens with different resolutions
will give different measurements. So that makes measuring things
on-screen with a pixel ruler is pretty pointless (literally) these
days.

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#31554

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-31 01:20 +0000
Message-ID<d4hoenFpv47U8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31549
On 2015-08-31, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <ae6dnfKtyNczH37InZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
><ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)
>> > 
>> > What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
>> > one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
>> > own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
>> > with different resolutions?
>> 
>> Yes, but measure parts on the screen like icons, graphics, 
>> (font/text)s, etc.
>
> As before and above ... different screens with different resolutions
> will give different measurements. So that makes measuring things
> on-screen with a pixel ruler is pretty pointless (literally) these
> days.

Free Ruler at least lets you specify the dpi of the ruler.

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#31550

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-31 01:13 +0000
Message-ID<d4ho1iFpv47U7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31532
On 2015-08-30, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> > What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)
>
>> What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
>> one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
>> own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
>> with different resolutions?
>
> Yes, but measure parts on the screen like icons, graphics, 
> (font/text)s, etc.

That seems to be exactly what Free Ruler does.

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#31561

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-08-31 11:43 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-DA60B8.11431531082015@aioe.org>
In reply to#31532
In article <ae6dnfKtyNczH37InZ2dnUU7-QWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

> > > What is a good simple/basic screen ruler (to measure pixels on screen)
> 
> > What is it that you want to do with such a ruler? Is it to measure on 
> > one home screen (which you can easily know the res of and roll your 
> > own ruler for) or is it for something portable for different screens 
> > with different resolutions?
> 
> Yes, but measure parts on the screen like icons, graphics, 
> (font/text)s, etc.

For icons you can tell from the Finder view menu since they are under 
your control. Look at Show View Options... For jpgs and other images, 
you can tell from Get Info and in other ways in imag software. For 
graphics in the process of being made, you can usually use img 
software ruler built into the program, Illustrator for example. For 
windows, it is a bit trickier but there would surely be terminal ways. 

An Applescript way might be something like first put the window you 
want to measure as a front one, (click on it) and then go to the 
script editor and run 

tell application "Finder" to get the bounds of the front window

and it will give you coordinates and from there you could work it out 
or write more script to do the maths (or math as Americans like to 
say, sounds strange to me!).

As for other things (including widows), a low tech solution of sorts:

For width make a simple graphic of a ruler with your resolution built 
into the dimensions, one for height, one for width. 

For example, you can make a very thin vertical ruler image and drag it 
over a browser window. It will go to the far left by default. You can 
then drag many other objects over the browser window, right over to 
near the ruler markings and get the height. Similar thing with 
vertical. 

You could combine both images on the one web browser viewport and then 
you would have both dimensions in the one viewport as a ruler for 
both. Either by making a combined image or putting the two as 
background on an HTML doc and dragging that over a browser window.

If you need help constructing any of these things, just give a shout. 
Oh, and don't forget to not show me in any reply, you would not want 
to be seen too closely associating with me. I quite understand.

-- 
dorayme

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#31588

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-08-31 16:25 +1200
Message-ID<310820151625147798%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#31561
In article <do_ray_me-DA60B8.11431531082015@aioe.org>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
<snip>
> 
> As for other things (including widows), a low tech solution of sorts:
> 
> For width make a simple graphic of a ruler with your resolution built 
> into the dimensions, one for height, one for width. 
> 
> For example, you can make a very thin vertical ruler image and drag it 
> over a browser window. It will go to the far left by default. You can 
> then drag many other objects over the browser window, right over to 
> near the ruler markings and get the height. Similar thing with 
> vertical. 
> 
> You could combine both images on the one web browser viewport and then 
> you would have both dimensions in the one viewport as a ruler for 
> both. Either by making a combined image or putting the two as 
> background on an HTML doc and dragging that over a browser window.
> 
> If you need help constructing any of these things, just give a shout. 
> Oh, and don't forget to not show me in any reply, you would not want 
> to be seen too closely associating with me. I quite understand.

Take a screen grab (Shift-Apple-3), load that into pretty much any
graphic editor and either just crop it to the object or measure it with
whatever tools available (for example, my old version of ColorIt! tells
you the size of the selction, so just selecting something give you the
size). At worst, you could zoom in and physically count the pixels.

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#31594

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-08-31 15:17 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-EF5C97.15174431082015@aioe.org>
In reply to#31588
In article <310820151625147798%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-DA60B8.11431531082015@aioe.org>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > 
> <snip>
> > 
> > As for other things (including widows), a low tech solution of sorts:
> > 
> > For width make a simple graphic of a ruler with your resolution built 
> > into the dimensions, one for height, one for width. 
> > 
> > For example, you can make a very thin vertical ruler image and drag it 
> > over a browser window. It will go to the far left by default. You can 
> > then drag many other objects over the browser window, right over to 
> > near the ruler markings and get the height. Similar thing with 
> > vertical. 
> > 
> > You could combine both images on the one web browser viewport and then 
> > you would have both dimensions in the one viewport as a ruler for 
> > both. Either by making a combined image or putting the two as 
> > background on an HTML doc and dragging that over a browser window.
> > 
> > If you need help constructing any of these things, just give a shout. 
> > Oh, and don't forget to not show me in any reply, you would not want 
> > to be seen too closely associating with me. I quite understand.
> 
> Take a screen grab (Shift-Apple-3), load that into pretty much any
> graphic editor and either just crop it to the object or measure it with
> whatever tools available (for example, my old version of ColorIt! tells
> you the size of the selction, so just selecting something give you the
> size). At worst, you could zoom in and physically count the pixels.

Well, not a bad idea! But Shift Command 4 is the one needed. Then, 
when it lands on the desktop (can be arranged), just Command I to get 
info on it, the pixels wide and high are given.

-- 
dorayme

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#31597

FromANTant@zimage.com (Ant)
Date2015-08-31 00:32 -0500
Message-ID<rtednbUSTYp1e37InZ2dnUU7-aOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#31594
> > > As for other things (including widows), a low tech solution of sorts:
> > > 
> > > For width make a simple graphic of a ruler with your resolution built 
> > > into the dimensions, one for height, one for width. 
> > > 
> > > For example, you can make a very thin vertical ruler image and drag it 
> > > over a browser window. It will go to the far left by default. You can 
> > > then drag many other objects over the browser window, right over to 
> > > near the ruler markings and get the height. Similar thing with 
> > > vertical. 
> > > 
> > > You could combine both images on the one web browser viewport and then 
> > > you would have both dimensions in the one viewport as a ruler for 
> > > both. Either by making a combined image or putting the two as 
> > > background on an HTML doc and dragging that over a browser window.
> > > 
> > > If you need help constructing any of these things, just give a shout. 
> > > Oh, and don't forget to not show me in any reply, you would not want 
> > > to be seen too closely associating with me. I quite understand.
> > 
> > Take a screen grab (Shift-Apple-3), load that into pretty much any
> > graphic editor and either just crop it to the object or measure it with
> > whatever tools available (for example, my old version of ColorIt! tells
> > you the size of the selction, so just selecting something give you the
> > size). At worst, you could zoom in and physically count the pixels.

> Well, not a bad idea! But Shift Command 4 is the one needed. Then, 
> when it lands on the desktop (can be arranged), just Command I to get 
> info on it, the pixels wide and high are given.

The way I have is I have multiple screen rulers all over my desktop 
measuring parts for one image. It is like drafting or something. :/
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#31653

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-31 13:32 -0400
Message-ID<310820151332045073%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#31594
In article <do_ray_me-EF5C97.15174431082015@aioe.org>, dorayme
<do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> > Take a screen grab (Shift-Apple-3), load that into pretty much any
> > graphic editor and either just crop it to the object or measure it with
> > whatever tools available (for example, my old version of ColorIt! tells
> > you the size of the selction, so just selecting something give you the
> > size). At worst, you could zoom in and physically count the pixels.
> 
> Well, not a bad idea! But Shift Command 4 is the one needed. Then, 
> when it lands on the desktop (can be arranged), just Command I to get 
> info on it, the pixels wide and high are given.

not only that, but it shows the number of pixels as you drag out the
rectangle.

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#31669

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2015-09-01 07:39 +1000
Message-ID<do_ray_me-CD19EB.07393101092015@aioe.org>
In reply to#31653
In article <310820151332045073%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <do_ray_me-EF5C97.15174431082015@aioe.org>, dorayme
> <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Take a screen grab (Shift-Apple-3), load that into pretty much any
> > > graphic editor and either just crop it to the object or measure it with
> > > whatever tools available (for example, my old version of ColorIt! tells
> > > you the size of the selction, so just selecting something give you the
> > > size). At worst, you could zoom in and physically count the pixels.
> > 
> > Well, not a bad idea! But Shift Command 4 is the one needed. Then, 
> > when it lands on the desktop (can be arranged), just Command I to get 
> > info on it, the pixels wide and high are given.
> 
> not only that, but it shows the number of pixels as you drag out the
> rectangle.

So it does! By gad, this should surely then solve the problem.

-- 
dorayme

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