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  ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 15:50 -0700
    Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:35 -0400
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 16:43 -0700
        Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-17 05:04 +0000
        Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-17 16:34 -0400
          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 17:03 -0700
            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 00:15 +0000
              Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 17:47 -0700
                Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 00:54 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 19:03 -0700
                    Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 02:35 +0000
                      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 20:42 -0700
                        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 16:59 +0000
                          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 13:04 -0700
                  Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-18 20:35 -0400
            Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-18 20:30 -0400
              Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 00:32 +0000
                Re: ftp software Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-18 18:04 -0700
                  Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 01:08 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:25 -0700
                    Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:33 -0700
                      Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:33 +0000
                        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:43 +0000
                        Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 10:55 -0700
                          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 11:05 -0700
                            Re: ftp software Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-19 11:20 -0700
                            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 18:23 +0000
                          Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 18:15 +0000
                            Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 12:53 -0700
                              Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 20:36 +0000
                    Re: ftp software "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 00:28 -0500
                      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 23:13 -0700
                    Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-19 13:19 +0000
                Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:23 -0700
      Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-17 05:02 +0000
        Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-17 16:38 -0400
    Re: ftp software ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-10-17 03:06 +0200
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 10:42 -0700
    Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-17 01:47 +0000
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 10:41 -0700
        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-17 18:21 +0000
          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 13:15 -0700
          Re: ftp software Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2016-10-21 15:47 -0400
            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-21 20:48 +0000
              Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-21 15:14 -0700
                Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 01:36 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-21 23:33 -0700
            Re: ftp software Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-22 06:20 -0700

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#37096

That's a good picture, and gives some kind of idea regarding how many 
posts one might have to dig through to find out what somebody said 6 or 
8 posts back.  Impossible?  By no means, but it begs the question, why 
clip out the primary elements of a post.

He said... in a group where a post can be 75 lines long with the 
history of one personal spat back a month or more.

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#37097

Okay, in response to that picture, here's a picture of how it looks to 
me.  Great date sorting isn't it?  I've dug through almost all the 
messages here and can't seem to find the one that mentioned that piece 
of software.  Which I'm sure was good honest labor and nothing nothing 
one should kvetch about.  I've since remember it was "Yummy Pro".

	http://grab.by/Tjb6

If I could now figure out who posted it, I'd ask what he thinks makes 
it better than the others under discussion.  But I'll spend some more 
time on it, and I'm sure it will be time well spent!

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#37114

On 2016-10-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> Okay, in response to that picture, here's a picture of how it looks to 
> me.  Great date sorting isn't it?  I've dug through almost all the 
> messages here and can't seem to find the one that mentioned that piece 
> of software.  Which I'm sure was good honest labor and nothing nothing 
> one should kvetch about. 
>
>       http://grab.by/Tjb6

It appears to be on the sixth line of the screens hot you provided
above. You appear to have it sorted by most recent date first, which is
strange. And you apparently aren't displaying posts in the preview pane
either, which means you will have to laboriously double-click each post
opening it in a new window just to read it.

Sorted correctly and displaying the preview pane in Unison, it's the
*third* post down:

<https://i.imgur.com/BLn0efh.png>

Here's the post in my Usenet client, slrn (again, third post down):

<https://i.imgur.com/4grSf58.png>

And here's the post on Google Groups (again, the third post down):

<https://i.imgur.com/dLn8zpd.png>

> I've since remember it was "Yummy Pro".

It wasn't "Yummy Pro". Yummy FTP is a plain vanilla FTP client that was
mentioned at some point up thread; but "BitTorrent Sync" is the
synchronization program you are actually asking about:

<https://www.resilio.com/individuals/>

> If I could now figure out who posted it, I'd ask what he thinks makes 
> it better than the others under discussion.  But I'll spend some more 
> time on it, and I'm sure it will be time well spent!

As you can see, MalcomO posted it.

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#37118

On 2016-10-19, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2016-10-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> Okay, in response to that picture, here's a picture of how it looks to 
>> me.  Great date sorting isn't it?  I've dug through almost all the 
>> messages here and can't seem to find the one that mentioned that piece 
>> of software.  Which I'm sure was good honest labor and nothing nothing 
>> one should kvetch about. 
>>
>>       http://grab.by/Tjb6
>
> It appears to be on the sixth line of the screens hot you provided
> above. You appear to have it sorted by most recent date first, which is
> strange. And you apparently aren't displaying posts in the preview pane
> either, which means you will have to laboriously double-click each post
> opening it in a new window just to read it.
>
> Sorted correctly and displaying the preview pane in Unison, it's the
> *third* post down:
>
><https://i.imgur.com/BLn0efh.png>
>
> Here's the post in my Usenet client, slrn (again, third post down):
>
><https://i.imgur.com/4grSf58.png>
>
> And here's the post on Google Groups (again, the third post down):
>
><https://i.imgur.com/dLn8zpd.png>

I'll also point out that you asked which program it was only 4 posts
down from this:

<https://i.imgur.com/b8RSaI1.png>

At that point in time, it would have been *quite* easy for you to figure
out the name of the program by simply reading the previous few posts.

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#37126

On 2016-10-19 15:33:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> You appear to have it sorted by most recent date first, which is
> strange.

What would be less strange in finding a post from "today", for example?

> And you apparently aren't displaying posts in the preview pane
> either, which means you will have to laboriously double-click each post
> opening it in a new window just to read it.

I clipped just the sort part of the image rather than the entire 
screen. Nevertheless, in most any discussion on csma, the salient part 
of a post is 40 lines down in the preview, so it means you have to 
bounce back and forthe between the list and scrolling to the bottom of 
preview.

> Sorted correctly and displaying the preview pane in Unison, it's the
> *third* post down:
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/BLn0efh.png>

Seems it's sorted by date, no?

> Here's the post in my Usenet client, slrn (again, third post down):
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/4grSf58.png>

I thought I was looking for the Yummy Pro post.  Again, clipping 
previous text--surely you admit it's not a specifcally GOOD thing to 
do, right?

> And here's the post on Google Groups (again, the third post down):
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/dLn8zpd.png>

So there's two programs I don't use.

>> I've since remember it was "Yummy Pro".
> 
> It wasn't "Yummy Pro". Yummy FTP is a plain vanilla FTP client that was
> mentioned at some point up thread; but "BitTorrent Sync" is the
> synchronization program you are actually asking about:
> 
> <https://www.resilio.com/individuals/>
> 
>> If I could now figure out who posted it, I'd ask what he thinks makes
>> it better than the others under discussion.  But I'll spend some more
>> time on it, and I'm sure it will be time well spent!
> 
> As you can see, MalcomO posted it.

Well the mystery is solved, we can all go back to our own world.  But 
first a minor apology for implying someone shouldn't clip salient bits 
from their posts.  Clip away!

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#37127

One relatively positive take-away.  I realize Unison doesn't give me 
what it once did in ease of operation. 

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#37129

On 2016-10-19 18:05:06 +0000, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> said:

> One relatively positive take-away.  I realize Unison doesn't give me 
> what it once did in ease of operation.

That is why I use Unison 1.8.1 rather than 2.2. I prefer the old UI, 
and it runs just fine on El Cap.
-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#37130

On 2016-10-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> One relatively positive take-away.  I realize Unison doesn't give me 
> what it once did in ease of operation. 

You can still use the older versions.

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#37128

On 2016-10-19, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-10-19 15:33:54 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> You appear to have it sorted by most recent date first, which is
>> strange.
>
> What would be less strange in finding a post from "today", for
> example?
>
>> And you apparently aren't displaying posts in the preview pane
>> either, which means you will have to laboriously double-click each
>> post opening it in a new window just to read it.
>
> I clipped just the sort part of the image rather than the entire
> screen. Nevertheless, in most any discussion on csma, the salient part
> of a post is 40 lines down in the preview, so it means you have to
> bounce back and forthe between the list and scrolling to the bottom of
> preview.

Still more convenient than having to double-click each message just to
view it, then close each window when you are done. And many Usenet
clients let you easily collapse quoted material so that's not an issue.

>> Sorted correctly and displaying the preview pane in Unison, it's the
>> *third* post down:
>> 
>> <https://i.imgur.com/BLn0efh.png>
>
> Seems it's sorted by date, no?

It's sorted with the oldest at the top. The post you were after was the
third post, chronologically. At the time you posted, yours was the
seventh post. Yours, on the other hand, was sorted such that old and new
posts were seemingly intermingled. Anyhow, the point you're avoiding is
it would have been very easy for you to find what you were looking for.

>> Here's the post in my Usenet client, slrn (again, third post down):
>> 
>> <https://i.imgur.com/4grSf58.png>
>
> I thought I was looking for the Yummy Pro post.

And had you simply looked at the previous posts, you would have quickly
learned you were wrong.

> Again, clipping previous text--surely you admit it's not a specifcally
> GOOD thing to do, right?

Of course. I'm just not as completely helpless in that situation as you
*claim* to be.

>> And here's the post on Google Groups (again, the third post down):
>> 
>> <https://i.imgur.com/dLn8zpd.png>
>
> So there's two programs I don't use.

I'm sure there are many programs you don't currently use. Not sure what
point you are trying to make.

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#37132

On 2016-10-19 18:15:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> Of course. I'm just not as completely helpless in that situation as you
> *claim* to be.

Never claimed I was helpless, I said repeatedly, and here again that it 
was a snipe, something I usually avoid, and am reminded is never worth 
the keystrokes.

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#37133

gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-10-19 18:15:49 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
>> Of course. I'm just not as completely helpless in that situation as you
>> *claim* to be.
> 
> Never claimed I was helpless, I said repeatedly, and here again that it 
> was a snipe, something I usually avoid, and am reminded is never worth 
> the keystrokes.

Ah, ok.

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JR

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#37100

On 10-18-2016 22:25, gtr wrote:
> He said... in a group where a post can be 75 lines long with the history
> of one personal spat back a month or more.

If I'm responding to lines 63-68, it's anti-social for me to expect you 
to scroll up and down searching for something unquoted.

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#37103

Your rules are as good as anybody else's.

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#37109

In message <201610182025294294-xxx@yyyzzz> 
  gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> but it begs the question,

No. "beg the question" means to engage in circular logic by assuming an
answer to a question or suppling the answer to a question that is not
part of the accompanying statement without providing any foundation for
that (unasked) question.

"The most comfortable mattresses, because coils are superior to foam,
are made by Serta."

That begs the question, "What is the basis for saying coils are superior
to foam?"


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#37095

Perhaps it's because I spend too much time in 
rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz, where google users never quote anything 
the precedes them.

And, like here, saying anything about it gets whatever the topic might 
have been dogged down for the rest of the thread.

My bad.

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#36965

In message <nu12re$7qt$1@dont-email.me> 
  MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> wrote:
> Use what used to be called BitTorrent Sync. It's set and forget. 
> Awesome. Works a treat. You won't be disappointed.

> https://www.resilio.com/individuals/

It's pretty good, but when it gets confused about which computer should
be the "master" things can go pear-shaped very quickly.

My 4TB movie folder ballooned to 7TB while BTSync tried to figure out
two nearly identical folders.


-- 
<http://www.pvponline.com/comic/2004/01/14/wed-jan-14/>

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#37007

On 2016/10/17 1:02 AM, Lewis wrote:
> when it gets confused about which computer should
> be the "master" things can go pear-shaped very quickly.

Didn't know. I've only used it in binary fashion so it's been 
pair-shaped for me. ;)
-- 
Malcolm

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#36958

gtr wrote:
> Migrating from CyberDuck.
>
> I see there is Interachy, Transmit, Yummy FTP, Fetch and others
>
> I have no exotic needs.  But I do have one folder on my HD that I would
> like when it changes to automatically sync to my server, rather than to
> do it manually each time.
>
> I think the guys at Panic (Transmit) are responsive and a creative
> crew.  Interarchy seems to have changed hands and done no updates for
> many years.  That's all I know.

I have and frequently use both Interarchy and Fetch. Both are have near 
same features.

Have tried Transmit but didn't like it...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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#36993

On 2016-10-17 01:06:01 +0000, ErikRS said:

> Have tried Transmit but didn't like it...

Do you recall your issue(s)?  The UI?

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#36961

On 2016-10-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> Migrating from CyberDuck.
>
> I see there is Interachy, Transmit, Yummy FTP, Fetch and others
>
> I think the guys at Panic (Transmit) are responsive and a creative 
> crew.  Interarchy seems to have changed hands and done no updates for 
> many years.  That's all I know.

Fetch, is the best of all of them IMHO. I've used it since classic Mac
OS, and it's always been a great client.

> I have no exotic needs.  But I do have one folder on my HD that I would 
> like when it changes to automatically sync to my server, rather than to 
> do it manually each time.

Personally, I'd write a little script to use rsync to do that on a
periodic basis (scheduled with cron or launchd).

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