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  Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 17:54 +0000
    Re: A good thing or a bad thing Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:09 +0000
    Re: A good thing or a bad thing Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:26 -0700
    Re: A good thing or a bad thing Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 21:36 +0000

#47392 — Re: A good thing or a bad thing

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:26:01 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :


>>Actions speak louder than words, little boy. And you always side with
>>Arlen - religiously (you even forgave him for impersonating you lol).
> 
> I will agree with anyone who speaks the truth or makes a rational
> statement, even you on occasion.  But I learned my lesson the last time
> I agreed with you when I realized you were lying.

Hi badgolferman,

Logic. And sense. Equals reason.

Like you, and like any logically sensible adult, I will agree with anyone
who makes a claim that is logically and sensibly sound, and you know that.

I will even openly & willingly apologize publicly if I say something that
turns out to be incorrect - and you know that also.

These Apple trolls? Hmmm.... they never do either.
Their only goal is to defend Apple's honor... to the death. No matter what.

With respect to the technical problem of copying files off of iOS to any
other platform without using the cloud, the Apple trolls claim that iTunes
can do it and that SMB can do it.

And yet, Apple publicly disavows any support whatsoever of Linux.
And Android.

So how do these Apple trolls copy files from iOS to Android?
(HINT: They don't. They lied.)

When the Apple trolls claim to copy from iOS to Android using the Files SMB
capability, they're lying because it's not possible (to my knowledge).

If it is possible to copy from iOS to Android using SMB, let them tell me
how they did it because Frank Slootweg taught me years ago that an unrooted
Android can't set up an SMB server (due to the SMB ports being below 1024).

And how do these Apple trolls use iTunes on Windows safely & securely?
(HINT: They don't. They lied.)

The Apple trolls are banking on us not knowing the facts about iTunes.

It has been *many* years since the iTunes bloatware abomination had the
capability of copying the IPA to the Windows platform (and even then,
iTunes grabbed that IPA from the App Store - not from the iOS device!)

So the only way they're doing it, today, is that they're not.
They lied.

Not only does that many years old iTunes bloatware abomination have known
zero-day exploit which Apple has not fixed in those deprecated versions,
but if the Apple trolls were to initiate that backup today using that old
software, it *still* grabs the IPA from the *current* iOS App Store.

So they lied doubly so (since what they claim is impossible to do).
They can NOT get older IPAs. They can only get the *current* IPA.

Not only do these Apple trolls have to use known exploited bloatware to do
that, but that bloatware doesn't work on Android nor on Linux (which Apple
says they will never support).

In summary, I think I make a logically sensible reasonable case against
using iTunes to copy files between iOS and every other platform we use.

The Apple trolls vehemently (actually viciously) disagree. By lying.
(HINT: That's what Apple trolls do.)

Apple trolls think nothing of lying to defend Apple's honor to the death.
-- 
This lack of logic & sense has been what the Apple Trolls have been doing
for decades on any newsgroup which contains any other operating system.

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#47393

On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 18:50:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote :


>> Then use the far simpler method of connecting to your Windows machine via
>> the Files app. Make sure you have Sharing enabled in Windows first. Simple
>> and new apps required. 
> 
> Thanks, but I use Linux, and I already stated I'm fine with just using
> ifuse and a usb cable. Or KDE Connect.

I will agree with anyone who says something sensible that is logically
defensible, where I agree with candycane that Linux iFuse is the way to go.

What AFC/iFuse allows on Linux is bidirectional iOS transfers over USB!

When I used to dual boot my Windows desktop to Ubuntu, I was initially
shocked at how *easy* it was to attain USB read access to iOS' file system!
 <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Linux, win10 & iOS together
 <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS?
 <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail
 <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy
 <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows
 <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical
 <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB
 <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything
 <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful
 <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only

That's USB. Not SMB. Not anything else. It's USB file transfers with iOS!

Since all that USB magic was done by iFuse, I desperately searched for a
Windows implementation of iFuse - but alas - it doesn't appear to exist.

That's sad because with tricks using Apple File Conduit (AFC) over USB that
only one in a million people are aware of, you can write to iOS' filesys.

Yes. Write. To much of the iOS filesys. Not just to DCIM! 
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios180.jpg> Read & write all!
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios170.jpg> Anywhere you want
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios160.jpg> Any file you want
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios150.jpg> Copy Win10 to iOS
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios140.jpg> read & write iOS
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios130.jpg> iFuse mounts all!
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios120.jpg> iFuse mounts iOS
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios110.jpg> iFuse Windows mnt
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios100.jpg> iFuse is native 
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios090.jpg> Nobody knows this
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios080.jpg> The trick!
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios070.jpg> Look closely
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios060.jpg> Both read & write
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios050.jpg> Including DCIM
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios040.jpg> View iOS filesys
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg> iOS mounts 
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg> Allow access?
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg> Trust Computer?
 <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios000.jpg> Ubuntu before iOS

Notice I copied huge feature-length films from Ubuntu to iOS sandboxes!
Alas, iFuse & AFC do not exist (AFAIK) on either Windows and Android.

If anyone knows of an AFC/iFuse implementation on Android/Windows, please
let me know as being able to do USB bidirectional file xfer is fantastic!

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#47394

On 2025-04-15 10:54, Marion wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:26:01 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
> 
> 
>>> Actions speak louder than words, little boy. And you always side with
>>> Arlen - religiously (you even forgave him for impersonating you lol).
>>
>> I will agree with anyone who speaks the truth or makes a rational
>> statement, even you on occasion.  But I learned my lesson the last time
>> I agreed with you when I realized you were lying.
> 
> Hi badgolferman,
> 
> Logic. And sense. Equals reason.
> 
> Like you, and like any logically sensible adult, I will agree with anyone
> who makes a claim that is logically and sensibly sound, and you know that.
> 
> I will even openly & willingly apologize publicly if I say something that
> turns out to be incorrect - and you know that also.

You claimed I could own a BMW 135i because I didn't know how "bimmer" 
and "beemer" were used...

...yet you said just today:

"Alan Baker has owned a bimmer for years and yet disputed what they're
commonly called in technical circles; and Alan Baker claims to 'teach
racing' and yet clearly has never studied the physics involved in
navigating differently various basic curves."

And given that I can prove beyond any doubt that I am a member (and past 
chairman) of the Race Drivers Committee of the Sports Car Club of 
British Columbia, and have SHOWN the proof, the last part of that 
sentence is clearly false as well.

'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver 
Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of 
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite 
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver 
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles 
under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers 
Training Program page.

Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The 
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia. 
Most committee members have won championships in their class while 
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven 
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'

<https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>

'SCCBC Race Drivers Committee

Race Drivers Committee Chairman  Alan Baker
Driver Training Registrar        Keith Robinson'

<https://web.archive.org/web/20230209055254/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>

> 
> These Apple trolls? Hmmm.... they never do either.
> Their only goal is to defend Apple's honor... to the death. No matter what.
> 
> With respect to the technical problem of copying files off of iOS to any
> other platform without using the cloud, the Apple trolls claim that iTunes
> can do it and that SMB can do it.
 > > And yet, Apple publicly disavows any support whatsoever of Linux.

Another factual claim without any supporting evidence...

> And Android.
> 
> So how do these Apple trolls copy files from iOS to Android?
> (HINT: They don't. They lied.)

No one I saw claimed that files can be copied from iOS to Android.

> 
> When the Apple trolls claim to copy from iOS to Android using the Files SMB
> capability, they're lying because it's not possible (to my knowledge).

No one I saw claimed that.

The rest of your straw man argument snipped.

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#47395

On 2025-04-15, Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:26:01 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :
>
>
>>>Actions speak louder than words, little boy. And you always side with
>>>Arlen - religiously (you even forgave him for impersonating you lol).
>> 
>> I will agree with anyone who speaks the truth or makes a rational
>> statement, even you on occasion.  But I learned my lesson the last
>> time I agreed with you when I realized you were lying.

You *regularly* side with Arlen, who *constantly* lies. So your
judgement there is laughably questionable at best, and a fucking joke at
worst.

But I'll indulge you anyway: Go ahead and point out this supposed "lie"
you claim I made, badgolferman. Absent of that, it's you who are lying.
🙂

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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