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  Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-11 16:35 +0000
    RE: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> - 2024-09-11 22:03 +0100
      Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 22:38 +0000
        Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-09-12 18:28 +1200
      Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-09-12 01:00 +0000
        Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 22:47 -0400
        Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-09-12 10:14 +0100
          Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-09-12 16:13 +0000
            Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-09-12 16:54 +0000
            Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-09-12 19:42 +0100
              Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-09-12 22:13 +0000

#47331 — Re: [NEWS] Everything Apple Announced Today

Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

>     Everything Apple Announced Today:
>     iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>     
> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom 

The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.
-- 
Nobody spends less than Apple in R&D (by size); nor more in marketing.

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#47332

On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
> 
>>      Everything Apple Announced Today:
>>      iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>      
>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
> 
> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
> 
> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
> 
> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.


I don't get this.  I like my iPhone.  I have a long background in 
technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed 
superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?  If I like 
something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and why 
should I care?

-- 
Wilf

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#47334

Wilf wrote:

>I don't get this.  I like my iPhone.  I have a long background in
>technology and although you may or may not be right about the
>supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
>If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
>so, and why should I care?


I like my iPhone too.  There are some things it does and certain apps
which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without.  But I think
what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
phone manufacturers.  This type of mentality is not tolerated and
immediately assailed by those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.
There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking
past each other.  If anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately
labeled a troll or heretic.  It's much like the political discourse
these days.

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#47337

On 2024-09-11 22:38:22 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Wilf wrote:
>> 
>> I don't get this.  I like my iPhone.  I have a long background in
>> technology and although you may or may not be right about the
>> supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
>> If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
>> so, and why should I care?
> 
> I like my iPhone too.  There are some things it does and certain apps
> which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without.  But I think
> what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
> severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
> phone manufacturers.

iOS also has less problems, less malware, and far less garbage apps 
than Android. It also works mostly properly and sensibly, unlike the 
disastorous mess of Android where every different manufacture adds 
their own crap into it.



> This type of mentality is not tolerated and immediately assailed by 
> those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. There can't be a real 
> discussion without personal insults and talking past each other.  If 
> anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately labeled a troll or 
> heretic.  It's much like the political discourse these days.

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#47335

On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
> On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
>> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
>> 
>>>      Everything Apple Announced Today:
>>>      iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>>      
>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
>> 
>> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
>> 
>> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
>> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
>> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
>> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
>> 
>> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
>> now.
>
> I don't get this.  I like my iPhone.  I have a long background in
> technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
> superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?  If I like
> something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
> why should I care?

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#47336

On 9/11/2024 9:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:
>>> Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :
>>>
>>>>       Everything Apple Announced Today:
>>>>       iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods
>>>>       
>>>> <https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>
>>>
>>> Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:
>>>
>>> 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
>>> 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
>>> 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
>>> 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
>>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom
>>>
>>> The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
>>> now.
>>
>> I don't get this.  I like my iPhone.  I have a long background in
>> technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
>> superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?  If I like
>> something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
>> why should I care?
> 
> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
> Andrew is one such troll.
> 

Bingo

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#47338

On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]
> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
> Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172613227600

Your views welcomed.

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#47339

On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
> [....]
>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>> Andrew is one such troll.
>
> How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links. 

Sorry.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#47340

Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Sep 2024 16:13:09 GMT :

>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>
>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
> 
> Not interested in random links. 
> 
> Sorry.

If someone is going to bother to post a related link, I click on the link;
but this link to Howard Knight went to an Apple discussion forum.
 <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022>

What I find interesting about Apple ngs is that the truth about Apple
products is not tolerated - yet every other OS newsgroups allows facts.

Why not?

The fact is the article said Apple announced this about the new iPhones.
 1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
 2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
 3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
 4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
 5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

That's just a fact.
Why should a simple fact such as that, provoke such hatred on an Apple ng?

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#47341

On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> [....]
>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>
>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
> 
> Not interested in random links.
> 
> Sorry.

From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>

Here are the facts:-

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

Thanks if you can. :-D

-- 
David

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#47342

On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> [....]
>>>> Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
>>>> Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
>>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
>>>> Andrew is one such troll.
>>>
>>> How about /this/ matter, JR?
>> 
>> Not interested in random links.
>> 
>> Sorry.
>
> From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
> Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100
>
> Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>
>
> Here are the facts:-
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022
>
> Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?
>
> Thanks if you can. :-D

Again, not interested. 

Sorry.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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