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  ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 15:50 -0700
    Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-16 23:00 +0000
    Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-16 19:35 -0400
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-16 16:43 -0700
        Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-17 05:04 +0000
        Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-17 16:34 -0400
          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 17:03 -0700
            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 00:15 +0000
              Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 17:47 -0700
                Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 00:54 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 19:03 -0700
                    Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 02:35 +0000
                      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 20:42 -0700
                        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-18 16:59 +0000
                          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 13:04 -0700
                  Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-18 20:35 -0400
            Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-18 20:30 -0400
              Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 00:32 +0000
                Re: ftp software Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-18 18:04 -0700
                  Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 01:08 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:25 -0700
                    Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:33 -0700
                      Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:33 +0000
                        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 15:43 +0000
                        Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 10:55 -0700
                          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 11:05 -0700
                            Re: ftp software Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-19 11:20 -0700
                            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 18:23 +0000
                          Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 18:15 +0000
                            Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-19 12:53 -0700
                              Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-19 20:36 +0000
                    Re: ftp software "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 00:28 -0500
                      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 23:13 -0700
                    Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-19 13:19 +0000
                Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-18 20:23 -0700
      Re: ftp software Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-17 05:02 +0000
        Re: ftp software MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-17 16:38 -0400
    Re: ftp software ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-10-17 03:06 +0200
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 10:42 -0700
    Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-17 01:47 +0000
      Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 10:41 -0700
        Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-17 18:21 +0000
          Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-17 13:15 -0700
          Re: ftp software Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> - 2016-10-21 15:47 -0400
            Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-21 20:48 +0000
              Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-21 15:14 -0700
                Re: ftp software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-22 01:36 +0000
                  Re: ftp software gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2016-10-21 23:33 -0700
            Re: ftp software Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-10-22 06:20 -0700

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#36992

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-10-17 10:41 -0700
Message-ID<201610171041486960-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#36961
On 2016-10-17 01:47:13 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-10-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> Migrating from CyberDuck.
>> 
>> I see there is Interachy, Transmit, Yummy FTP, Fetch and others
>> 
>> I think the guys at Panic (Transmit) are responsive and a creative
>> crew.  Interarchy seems to have changed hands and done no updates for
>> many years.  That's all I know.
> 
> Fetch, is the best of all of them IMHO. I've used it since classic Mac
> OS, and it's always been a great client.
> 
>> I have no exotic needs.  But I do have one folder on my HD that I would
>> like when it changes to automatically sync to my server, rather than to
>> do it manually each time.
> 
> Personally, I'd write a little script to use rsync to do that on a
> periodic basis (scheduled with cron or launchd).

You have more scripting chops that I.  That seems to imply the Fetch 
doesn't do this kind of syncing; true?

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#36998

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-17 18:21 +0000
Message-ID<e6kj50FubbeU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36992
On 2016-10-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-10-17 01:47:13 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2016-10-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> Migrating from CyberDuck.
>>> 
>>> I see there is Interachy, Transmit, Yummy FTP, Fetch and others
>>> 
>>> I think the guys at Panic (Transmit) are responsive and a creative
>>> crew.  Interarchy seems to have changed hands and done no updates for
>>> many years.  That's all I know.
>> 
>> Fetch, is the best of all of them IMHO. I've used it since classic Mac
>> OS, and it's always been a great client.
>> 
>>> I have no exotic needs.  But I do have one folder on my HD that I would
>>> like when it changes to automatically sync to my server, rather than to
>>> do it manually each time.
>> 
>> Personally, I'd write a little script to use rsync to do that on a
>> periodic basis (scheduled with cron or launchd).
>
> You have more scripting chops that I.  That seems to imply the Fetch 
> doesn't do this kind of syncing; true?

No, Fetch does do synchronization:

<https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>

The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
launching the Fetch application and so on.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#37003

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-10-17 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<201610171315298774-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#36998
On 2016-10-17 18:21:20 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-10-17, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-17 01:47:13 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2016-10-16, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>> Migrating from CyberDuck.
>>>> 
>>>> I see there is Interachy, Transmit, Yummy FTP, Fetch and others
>>>> 
>>>> I think the guys at Panic (Transmit) are responsive and a creative
>>>> crew.  Interarchy seems to have changed hands and done no updates for
>>>> many years.  That's all I know.
>>> 
>>> Fetch, is the best of all of them IMHO. I've used it since classic Mac
>>> OS, and it's always been a great client.
>>> 
>>>> I have no exotic needs.  But I do have one folder on my HD that I would
>>>> like when it changes to automatically sync to my server, rather than to
>>>> do it manually each time.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'd write a little script to use rsync to do that on a
>>> periodic basis (scheduled with cron or launchd).
>> 
>> You have more scripting chops that I.  That seems to imply the Fetch
>> doesn't do this kind of syncing; true?
> 
> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
> 
> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
> 
> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
> launching the Fetch application and so on.

Thanks for the clarification.  I'll check it out.

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#37163

FromFred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh>
Date2016-10-21 15:47 -0400
Message-ID<nudrbh$8gd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#36998
On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
>
> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
>
> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
> launching the Fetch application and so on.

If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent 
donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent 
than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically 
backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.

<http://robdutoitsoftware.com>

There is a manual on the available .dmg file.

Just a satisfied user.

-- 
I worry that we invented Quality Control because we thought if we didn't 
control it it could get out of hand.
	--Lily Tomlin

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#37164

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-21 20:48 +0000
Message-ID<e6vd94Fhn7lU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37163
On 2016-10-21, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> wrote:
> On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
>>
>> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
>>
>> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
>> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
>> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
>> launching the Fetch application and so on.
>
> If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent 
> donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent 
> than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically 
> backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.
>
><http://robdutoitsoftware.com>
>
> There is a manual on the available .dmg file.
>
> Just a satisfied user.

Thanks. I'll check it out some time.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#37169

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-10-21 15:14 -0700
Message-ID<2016102115143675336-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#37164
On 2016-10-21 20:48:36 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-10-21, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> wrote:
>> On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
>>> 
>>> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
>>> 
>>> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
>>> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
>>> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
>>> launching the Fetch application and so on.
>> 
>> If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent
>> donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent
>> than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically
>> backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.
>> 
>> <http://robdutoitsoftware.com>
>> 
>> There is a manual on the available .dmg file.
>> 
>> Just a satisfied user.
> 
> Thanks. I'll check it out some time.

Actually as I consider my true operational needs, what I'll need is a 
script that deletes a folder on my server, and copies one on my drive 
to replace it.  No more.  So it really is a hot-key or "go" button that 
would do the trick for me.  I still occasionally use iWeb, so I export 
to disc, and then need to move that whole folder online.  It should be 
easy enough... when I get around to it...

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#37175

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2016-10-22 01:36 +0000
Message-ID<e6vu5dFkri8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#37169
On 2016-10-21, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2016-10-21 20:48:36 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>
>> On 2016-10-21, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> wrote:
>>> On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
>>>> 
>>>> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
>>>> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
>>>> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
>>>> launching the Fetch application and so on.
>>> 
>>> If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent
>>> donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent
>>> than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically
>>> backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.
>>> 
>>> <http://robdutoitsoftware.com>
>>> 
>>> There is a manual on the available .dmg file.
>>> 
>>> Just a satisfied user.
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll check it out some time.
>
> Actually as I consider my true operational needs, what I'll need is a
> script that deletes a folder on my server, and copies one on my drive
> to replace it.  No more.

That's potentially very inefficient because you will quite likely be
transferring files that have not changed. A better way would be to only
transfer what has actually changed so that the destination is
technically the same as the source, rather than replacing everything no
matter what. That happens to be exactly what rsync is designed to do. 

> So it really is a hot-key or "go" button that would do the trick for
> me. 

You can create an rsync command file and initiate it with a double-click
if you want: 

1. Use TextWrangler or any plain text editor to create a file
with this single-line command in it:

/usr/bin/rsync --progress --times --itemize-changes --stats
--human-readable --checksum --recursive --links --owner --group --perms
--executability --compress --exclude='.svn/' --exclude='.DS_Store'
/source/path/here dest/path/here

2. Save the file with the name "sync.command".

3. Double-click the command file to execute it in a new terminal window. 

It's that simple. I use the above in scripts to synchronize various
content between my workstation and a server. You can, of course, change
the command-line switches to do anything else you want. For instance, to
exclude other files or folders, add an --exclude switch.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#37191

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2016-10-21 23:33 -0700
Message-ID<201610212333218051-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#37175
On 2016-10-22 01:36:45 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2016-10-21, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> On 2016-10-21 20:48:36 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
>> 
>>> On 2016-10-21, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> wrote:
>>>> On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> No, Fetch does do synchronization:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
>>>>> background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
>>>>> Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
>>>>> launching the Fetch application and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent
>>>> donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent
>>>> than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically
>>>> backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.
>>>> 
>>>> <http://robdutoitsoftware.com>
>>>> 
>>>> There is a manual on the available .dmg file.
>>>> 
>>>> Just a satisfied user.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I'll check it out some time.
>> 
>> Actually as I consider my true operational needs, what I'll need is a
>> script that deletes a folder on my server, and copies one on my drive
>> to replace it.  No more.
> 
> That's potentially very inefficient because you will quite likely be
> transferring files that have not changed. A better way would be to only
> transfer what has actually changed so that the destination is
> technically the same as the source, rather than replacing everything no
> matter what. That happens to be exactly what rsync is designed to do.
> 
>> So it really is a hot-key or "go" button that would do the trick for
>> me.
> 
> You can create an rsync command file and initiate it with a double-click
> if you want:
> 
> 1. Use TextWrangler or any plain text editor to create a file
> with this single-line command in it:
> 
> /usr/bin/rsync --progress --times --itemize-changes --stats
> --human-readable --checksum --recursive --links --owner --group --perms
> --executability --compress --exclude='.svn/' --exclude='.DS_Store'
> /source/path/here dest/path/here
> 
> 2. Save the file with the name "sync.command".
> 
> 3. Double-click the command file to execute it in a new terminal window.
> 
> It's that simple. I use the above in scripts to synchronize various
> content between my workstation and a server. You can, of course, change
> the command-line switches to do anything else you want. For instance, to
> exclude other files or folders, add an --exclude switch.

Duly squirreled away for future usage.

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#37194

FromMichael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com>
Date2016-10-22 06:20 -0700
Message-ID<mev94303y-8AA3B0.06203622102016@news.individual.net>
In reply to#37163
In article <nudrbh$8gd$1@dont-email.me>, Fred Moore <fmoore@gfcn.huh> 
wrote:

> On 10/17/16 2:21 p, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > No, Fetch does do synchronization:
> >
> > <https://i.imgur.com/MERPgHu.png>
> >
> > The reason I would use rsync is it can be done completely in the
> > background, with no user interface, on an automated (periodic) basis.
> > Fetch can be automated as well, but not without all of the overhead of
> > launching the Fetch application and so on.
> 
> If you want to use rsync, let me suggest BackupList+. It's excellent 
> donationware which loads its own version of rsync, usually more recent 
> than Apple's. It can easily run in the background and automatically 
> backup files, folders, or volumes on schedule, say every hour if you like.
> 
> <http://robdutoitsoftware.com>
> 
> There is a manual on the available .dmg file.
> 
> Just a satisfied user.

I used it for a number of years but the developer changed the interface 
and upgraded the embedded rsync which broke all 5 of my backupList jobs.

SO...I just wrote a script that backs up stuff I wanted to backup with 
the native rsync and run it daily.  All the folder-sync-ing is now in 
one place.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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