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mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion

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  mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion ddmullin1970@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 21:14 -0700
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-10-12 23:55 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-13 12:40 +0000
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-10-13 09:00 -0400
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-13 11:30 -0400
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion ddmullin1970@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 17:54 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-14 01:44 +0000
        Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 22:19 -0400
          Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-13 22:32 -0400
            Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-10-13 21:44 -0500
          Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-14 03:48 +0000
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion pukoogirl@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 17:59 -0700
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion penaduel@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 18:07 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-13 21:11 -0400
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-14 07:33 +0000
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion penaduel@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 18:15 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-13 21:18 -0400
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion ddmullin1970@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 18:57 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-14 07:34 +0000
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion ddmullin1970@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 19:34 -0700
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion ddmullin1970@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 21:05 -0700
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-14 00:13 -0400
      Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion android <here@there.was> - 2015-10-14 09:26 +0200
    Re: mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion penaduel@gmail.com - 2015-10-14 00:53 -0700

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#32612 — mac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion

Fromddmullin1970@gmail.com
Date2015-10-12 21:14 -0700
Subjectmac mini fall of 2012, El Capitan faster than mountain Lion
Message-ID<a4656b5d-a8d0-4702-8136-fca75f1428a2@googlegroups.com>
i Have Mac Mini Fall of 2012
i5 Duo 2.5 GHz
4GB of pc1600 RAM
500 GB HDD

Is Mac OS X v10.11 El capitan really faster than 
Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion it came with, or it's mearly faster than either Mavericks or Yosemite,


Should I split HDD to 2 partitions of 250GB each,
and Re-Install Mt Lion & El Capitan, one in each Partition?
or have just El Capitan?

Mt Lion have Open GL and Aqua, so does Mavericks and Yosemite,
but El Capitan replaced it with Metal API.

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#32613

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-10-12 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<vilain-34AAC4.23550012102015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#32612
In article <a4656b5d-a8d0-4702-8136-fca75f1428a2@googlegroups.com>,
 ddmullin1970@gmail.com wrote:

> i Have Mac Mini Fall of 2012
> i5 Duo 2.5 GHz
> 4GB of pc1600 RAM
> 500 GB HDD
> 
> Is Mac OS X v10.11 El capitan really faster than 
> Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion it came with, or it's mearly faster than either 
> Mavericks or Yosemite,
> 
> 
> Should I split HDD to 2 partitions of 250GB each,
> and Re-Install Mt Lion & El Capitan, one in each Partition?
> or have just El Capitan?
> 
> Mt Lion have Open GL and Aqua, so does Mavericks and Yosemite,
> but El Capitan replaced it with Metal API.

I'd put as much memory as you can into that machine.  16GB is the most 
it will hold.  4GB won't be enough, IMO.

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#32616

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-10-13 12:40 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn1pv2f.m4.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#32613
In message <vilain-34AAC4.23550012102015@news.individual.net> 
  Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <a4656b5d-a8d0-4702-8136-fca75f1428a2@googlegroups.com>,
>  ddmullin1970@gmail.com wrote:

>> i Have Mac Mini Fall of 2012
>> i5 Duo 2.5 GHz
>> 4GB of pc1600 RAM
>> 500 GB HDD
>> 
>> Is Mac OS X v10.11 El capitan really faster than 
>> Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion it came with, or it's mearly faster than either 
>> Mavericks or Yosemite,
>> 
>> 
>> Should I split HDD to 2 partitions of 250GB each,
>> and Re-Install Mt Lion & El Capitan, one in each Partition?
>> or have just El Capitan?
>> 
>> Mt Lion have Open GL and Aqua, so does Mavericks and Yosemite,
>> but El Capitan replaced it with Metal API.

> I'd put as much memory as you can into that machine.  16GB is the most 
> it will hold.  4GB won't be enough, IMO.

4GB under 10.11 will be better than 4GB under 10.8, so if 4GB is fine
now, it will be fine.

Yes, *I* would max the RAM (and did on my 2012 mini) but moving up to
10.11 doesn't require more memory.


-- 
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#32617

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-10-13 09:00 -0400
Message-ID<7f6dnT_5Wav6nYDLnZ2dnUU7-TmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#32612
On 2015-10-13 00:14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com wrote:
> i Have Mac Mini Fall of 2012
> i5 Duo 2.5 GHz
> 4GB of pc1600 RAM
> 500 GB HDD
>
> Is Mac OS X v10.11 El capitan really faster than
> Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion it came with, or it's mearly faster than either Mavericks or Yosemite,

Generally no - but OS related graphics rendering for most operations has 
been offloaded to the GPU relieving the CPU of that load.  In that sense 
you get some speed improvement.

>
> Should I split HDD to 2 partitions of 250GB each,
> and Re-Install Mt Lion & El Capitan, one in each Partition?
> or have just El Capitan?

IMO you'll be fine with 10.11 alone.  We're running 10.11 on an MBA here 
with 4 GB of RAM with no issue.

You could consider updating your HDD to SSD some day (no urgency) and 
increasing the RAM as a longer term life extension to that Mac Mini.  No 
urgency to do so.

>
> Mt Lion have Open GL and Aqua, so does Mavericks and Yosemite,
> but El Capitan replaced it with Metal API.

Not so much replaced as offloading rendering to Metal and the GPU.

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#32618

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-10-13 11:30 -0400
Message-ID<131020151130072318%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32612
In article <a4656b5d-a8d0-4702-8136-fca75f1428a2@googlegroups.com>,
<ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:

> i Have Mac Mini Fall of 2012
> i5 Duo 2.5 GHz
> 4GB of pc1600 RAM
> 500 GB HDD
> 
> Is Mac OS X v10.11 El capitan really faster than 
> Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion it came with, or it's mearly faster than either
> Mavericks or Yosemite,

it's definitely faster.

> Should I split HDD to 2 partitions of 250GB each,
> and Re-Install Mt Lion & El Capitan, one in each Partition?
> or have just El Capitan?

there's no point in having both.

> Mt Lion have Open GL and Aqua, so does Mavericks and Yosemite,
> but El Capitan replaced it with Metal API.

open gl is still there

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#32638

Fromddmullin1970@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 17:54 -0700
Message-ID<78a64c0e-5bd5-4423-84ed-e12af682b35c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous apps,
the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion.
works perfectly

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#32644

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-14 01:44 +0000
Message-ID<d85qceFa1mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32638
On 2015-10-14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com <ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:
> I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous apps,
> the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion.
> works perfectly

Congrats! Thanks for reporting back. : )

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#32648

FromFPP <fredp151@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-13 22:19 -0400
Message-ID<mvkdvb$rts$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32644
On 2015-10-13 21:44:46 -0400, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2015-10-14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com <ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous apps,
>> the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion.
>> works perfectly
> 
> Congrats! Thanks for reporting back. : )

Are you noticing the amazing similarity in writing for the last dozen 
posts, or so?

But under several different gmail addresses...

Or is that just a Google oddity?
-- 
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#32651

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-10-13 22:32 -0400
Message-ID<131020152232065451%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32648
In article <mvkdvb$rts$1@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On 2015-10-14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com <ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous apps,
> >> the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion.
> >> works perfectly
> > 
> > Congrats! Thanks for reporting back. : )
> 
> Are you noticing the amazing similarity in writing for the last dozen 
> posts, or so?
> 
> But under several different gmail addresses...
> 
> Or is that just a Google oddity?

it's a troll.

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#32653

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-10-13 21:44 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1510132140500.7762@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#32651
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On Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:32 -0400, 
 in article <131020152232065451%nospam@nospam.invalid>, 
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <mvkdvb$rts$1@dont-email.me>, 
>  FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> On 2015-10-14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com wrote:

>>>> I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous 
>>>> apps, the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion. 
>>>> works perfectly

>>> Congrats! Thanks for reporting back. : )

>> Are you noticing the amazing similarity in writing for the last 
>> dozen posts, or so?

>> But under several different gmail addresses...

>> Or is that just a Google oddity?

> it's a troll.

So it is:

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#32655

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-10-14 03:48 +0000
Message-ID<d861kuF1r0nU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32648
FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2015-10-13 21:44:46 -0400, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
> 
>> On 2015-10-14, ddmullin1970@gmail.com <ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I upgraded El Capitan over Mt Lion to perserve all my previous apps,
>>> the ones i've added other than ones included with mt Lion.
>>> works perfectly
>> 
>> Congrats! Thanks for reporting back. : )
> 
> Are you noticing the amazing similarity in writing for the last dozen 
> posts, or so?
> 
> But under several different gmail addresses...
> 
> Or is that just a Google oddity?

Lame trolling. ; )

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#32639

Frompukoogirl@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 17:59 -0700
Message-ID<0589dea5-0eaf-4209-a988-344196b7b63e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
Ive upgraded to El Cap fresh install.
over MLion on my 2012 iMac 27" with 4G RAM,
i can see the speed difference,
Great Job Tim Cook

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#32640

Frompenaduel@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 18:07 -0700
Message-ID<1fcf3e23-3f20-4411-8cec-e62ff71f4d66@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
El Capitan crashes constantly,
i have Mac Mini 2006 Core Duo with 1 GB RAM
slow as molasses, unresponsive,
going back to Mac OS 10.5.8 Leopard,
i added 4 GB RAM (2x2G)
bit it's still tepid,
What Gives

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#32641

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-10-13 21:11 -0400
Message-ID<131020152111536626%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32640
In article <1fcf3e23-3f20-4411-8cec-e62ff71f4d66@googlegroups.com>,
<penaduel@gmail.com> wrote:

> El Capitan crashes constantly,
> i have Mac Mini 2006 Core Duo with 1 GB RAM
> slow as molasses, unresponsive,
> going back to Mac OS 10.5.8 Leopard,
> i added 4 GB RAM (2x2G)
> bit it's still tepid,
> What Gives

you're full of shit.

not only will el capitan not run on that mac but it's impossible to
even install it.

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#32662

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-10-14 07:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn1s1en.4v8.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#32640
In message <1fcf3e23-3f20-4411-8cec-e62ff71f4d66@googlegroups.com> 
  penaduel@gmail.com <penaduel@gmail.com> wrote:
> El Capitan crashes constantly,
> i have Mac Mini 2006 Core Duo with 1 GB RAM

Not running 10.11 you don't.

-- 
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you're so funny.' I said, 'Yeah? Well I can't see anyone else smiling in
here.'

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#32642

Frompenaduel@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 18:15 -0700
Message-ID<fc0670bf-e6dc-4c10-b228-f16cdb30f7a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
not only will el capitan not run on that mac but it's impossible to
even install it. 

Ive used pacifist, and CPu emu

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#32643

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-10-13 21:18 -0400
Message-ID<131020152118461441%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#32642
In article <fc0670bf-e6dc-4c10-b228-f16cdb30f7a4@googlegroups.com>,
<penaduel@gmail.com> wrote:

> > not only will el capitan not run on that mac but it's impossible to
> > even install it. 
> 
> Ive used pacifist, and CPu emu

bullshit.

and learn to quote. i fixed it this time.

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#32645

Fromddmullin1970@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 18:57 -0700
Message-ID<7bf4e111-68c0-472a-be30-1ca78de5f7f9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
> *it 
> and learn to quote. i fixed it this time.


you need a i5 Mac mini 2012 or later,
Emulation on Core Duo,
Isn't useful

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#32663

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-10-14 07:34 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn1s1g1.4v8.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#32645
In message <7bf4e111-68c0-472a-be30-1ca78de5f7f9@googlegroups.com> 
  ddmullin1970@gmail.com <ddmullin1970@gmail.com> wrote:
>> *it 
>> and learn to quote. i fixed it this time.

> you need a i5 Mac mini 2012 or later,

No you don't.

-- 
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#32652

Fromddmullin1970@gmail.com
Date2015-10-13 19:34 -0700
Message-ID<fff6c5d4-7e68-4dd7-87fb-39a5a878aa24@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32612
> Bu** ****
> and learn to quote. i fixed it this time.


you need a i5 Mac mini 2012 or later,

or at least one of these Macs below

iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)

Emulation on Core Duo of 06,
Isn't useful

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