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| Started by | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| First post | 2015-08-08 18:08 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-08-09 09:13 -0400 |
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Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 18:08 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-08 14:30 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 19:10 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-08 19:25 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-08 15:37 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-08 21:45 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 17:17 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:41 -0600
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-09 14:11 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-09 10:20 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 15:16 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-09 20:09 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:32 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:36 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:37 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:41 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:48 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 22:19 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 08:38 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-08-10 10:28 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 11:00 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 10:26 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-10 19:07 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 15:47 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-11 20:08 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-11 18:14 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-12 16:54 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-12 18:32 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-13 01:06 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-13 09:19 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-13 14:58 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 15:16 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 06:00 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 18:23 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 10:57 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-14 13:48 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-16 09:14 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 00:23 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:30 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-17 13:27 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 13:24 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-19 21:45 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 13:24 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-18 06:22 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-18 16:47 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:40 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-14 13:47 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:38 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-18 15:04 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-19 16:16 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-20 20:07 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 09:36 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:06 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:44 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-14 12:13 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 03:32 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-14 23:56 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 13:46 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 16:07 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-15 23:23 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-15 04:39 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-15 17:37 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-17 13:20 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-15 21:06 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-14 12:52 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:40 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 03:37 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:51 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-12 14:36 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 18:44 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 15:27 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:37 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 15:54 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 20:09 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 16:34 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-15 22:31 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 00:23 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 10:57 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 13:40 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-10 15:33 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:47 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-10 08:51 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 17:28 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:33 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 17:53 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:36 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:02 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:42 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 11:57 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 16:14 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-10 09:43 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 12:55 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 17:07 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 04:08 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-08-09 18:53 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 00:00 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Dedomen <avdija@eeepc.link.ba> - 2015-08-10 14:09 +0200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-10 14:18 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 18:53 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 21:25 +0100
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 20:56 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:47 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-10 16:37 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 12:23 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-09 23:13 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 23:32 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 20:50 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 04:12 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 21:03 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Dedomen <avdija@eeepc.link.ba> - 2015-08-10 14:07 +0200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 20:52 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-10 19:07 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-08 18:17 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 22:25 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-08 22:32 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:22 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-09 13:06 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 17:33 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-10 09:15 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-10 14:22 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-10 16:23 -0700
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-11 12:00 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-12 01:08 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-11 22:49 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-12 17:47 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-13 21:44 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-09 01:44 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 15:15 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:18 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 22:41 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-09 22:18 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-09 16:36 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-09 19:27 -0500
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 22:41 -0400
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-10 17:29 +1200
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-10 18:27 +0000
Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:13 -0400
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 11:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <100820151100051227%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #31026 |
In article <mq9qsn$op7$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote: >On 10/08/2015 08:38, Tim Streater wrote: > >> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was >> *what*, precisely? > >As its related-to-the-previous-version name suggests, it's mostly a >bugfix and performance improvement release, just as Snow Leopard was >compared to Leopard, and Mountain Lion was compared to Lion. Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was *what*, precisely? -- "If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid tripping your hair-trigger insecurities." - D M Procida, UCSM
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 10:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d2rcimF5r9qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31027 |
On 2015-08-10, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <mq9qsn$op7$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Calum
><com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:
>
>>On 10/08/2015 08:38, Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>>> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was
>>> *what*, precisely?
>>
>>As its related-to-the-previous-version name suggests, it's mostly a
>>bugfix and performance improvement release, just as Snow Leopard was
>>compared to Leopard, and Mountain Lion was compared to Lion.
>
> Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was
> *what*, precisely?
Politics.
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If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 19:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #31027 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <mq9qsn$op7$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Calum > <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote: > >> On 10/08/2015 08:38, Tim Streater wrote: >> >>> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was >>> *what*, precisely? >> >> As its related-to-the-previous-version name suggests, it's mostly a >> >bugfix and performance improvement release, just as Snow Leopard was >>> >compared to Leopard, and Mountain Lion was compared to Lion. > > Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was > *what*, precisely? To make money?? -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 15:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <100820151547448680%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31058 |
In article <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > > Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was > > *what*, precisely? > > To make money?? yosemite is free. that's not a very good way to make money.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 20:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #31060 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>> Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was >>> *what*, precisely? >> >> To make money?? > > yosemite is free. > > that's not a very good way to make money. Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new versions, if such are available is free??? -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 18:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <110820151814574180%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31071 |
In article <1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>> Humph, allow me to rephrase the question: So the point of Yosemite was > >>> *what*, precisely? > >> > >> To make money?? > > > > yosemite is free. > > > > that's not a very good way to make money. > > Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new > versions, if such are available is free??? the replacements aren't coming from apple and most of the time is free.
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 16:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55cb7a38$0$90914$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #31071 |
In article <1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article >> <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >> yosemite is free. >> >> that's not a very good way to make money. > >Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new >versions, if such are available is free??? I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? I bought a MacBook Air a few weeks ago and have successfully installed some of my old programs. Yes, the same ones that are running on my iMac with Snow Leopard. So far, there have been two apps I've had to update. Hardly a surprise, going from 10.6 to 10.10. (My old MacBook was running 10.4, so I moved apps from the newer iMac instead.) Patty
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 18:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <120820151832278880%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #31076 |
In article <55cb7a38$0$90914$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >In article ><1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, > >Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> In article >>> <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> >>> yosemite is free. >>> >>> that's not a very good way to make money. >> >>Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new >>versions, if such are available is free??? > >I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. >Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? Nothing disastrous, just unnecessary and inconvenient. Like the rubbish new flat look, which will make it harder to tell what is a clickable button and what is not. And that popup windows in Safari will now have a non-removable address bar so that supposedly people can tell where the window came from. In my app, such popups come from the very machine the user is sitting in front of, and do serve no purpose. But I can't program them away. -- "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 01:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55cbed95$0$90950$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #31077 |
In article <120820151832278880%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >In article <55cb7a38$0$90914$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter ><patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >>In article >><1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, >> >>Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> >>>Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new >>>versions, if such are available is free??? >> >>I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >>because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >>were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >>googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >>few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. >>Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? > >Nothing disastrous, just unnecessary and inconvenient. Like the rubbish >new flat look, which will make it harder to tell what is a clickable >button and what is not. And that popup windows in Safari will now have >a non-removable address bar so that supposedly people can tell where >the window came from. In my app, such popups come from the very machine >the user is sitting in front of, and do serve no purpose. But I can't >program them away. Okay, but as you can see from what I quoted, Erilar was talking about software needing to be replaced, not just looking or behaving a little differently. Patty
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 09:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #31076 |
Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > In article <1267367920461016371.859860drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal- > september.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> In article > >> <1200648994460926288.982237drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > >> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> > >> yosemite is free. > >> > >> that's not a very good way to make money. > > > >Making software useless so people need to buy replacements or at least new > >versions, if such are available is free??? > > I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 > because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what > were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just > googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very > few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. > Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. > I bought a MacBook Air a few weeks ago and have successfully installed > some of my old programs. Yes, the same ones that are running on my iMac > with Snow Leopard. So far, there have been two apps I've had to update. > Hardly a surprise, going from 10.6 to 10.10. (My old MacBook was running > 10.4, so I moved apps from the newer iMac instead.) -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 14:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55ccb08f$0$90983$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #31079 |
In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. >> Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? > >Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for >being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and >Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications >would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. Patty
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 15:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d33qmbFblltU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31081 |
On 2015-08-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > > In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >> >>> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >>> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >>> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >>> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >>> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. >>> Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? >> >>Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for >>being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and >>Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications >>would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. > > Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and > everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to > that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with > 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this > group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, > those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. It has more to do with hard-headed rejection of anything new. ; ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 06:00 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1m94rb9.3qkfl71ij06unN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #31082 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-08-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > > > > In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, > > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > >>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 > >>> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what > >>> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just > >>> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very > >>> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. > >>> Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? > >> > >>Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for > >>being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and > >>Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications > >>would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. > > > > Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and > > everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to > > that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with > > 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this > > group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, > > those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. > > It has more to do with hard-headed rejection of anything new. ; ) I simply see no reason to upgrade when my mid-2007 iMac still works, does what I need, and likewise my old software :-) -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-13 18:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d345l8FeoabU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31083 |
On 2015-08-13, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >> > >> > In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, >> > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >> >>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >> >>> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >> >>> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >> >>> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >> >>> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the release. >> >>> Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? >> >> >> >>Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for >> >>being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and >> >>Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications >> >>would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. >> > >> > Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and >> > everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to >> > that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with >> > 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this >> > group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, >> > those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. >> >> It has more to do with hard-headed rejection of anything new. ; ) > > I simply see no reason to upgrade when my mid-2007 iMac still works, > does what I need, and likewise my old software :-) Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 10:57 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1m954uo.3t91g21oo22wgN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #31084 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-08-13, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2015-08-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, > >> > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > >> >>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 > >> >>> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what > >> >>> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just > >> >>> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very > >> >>> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the > >> >>> release. Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? > >> >> > >> >>Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for > >> >>being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and > >> >>Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications > >> >>would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. > >> > > >> > Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and > >> > everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to > >> > that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with > >> > 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this > >> > group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, > >> > those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. > >> > >> It has more to do with hard-headed rejection of anything new. ; ) > > > > I simply see no reason to upgrade when my mid-2007 iMac still works, > > does what I need, and likewise my old software :-) > > Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-14 13:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d369u4Fb49U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #31096 |
On 2015-08-13, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. > > Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) Good question. If I were that resistant to change, I would have purchased a used machine on eBay that would run the OS I want. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <692821640461362348.642904drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #31096 |
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-13, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13, Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In article <1m935ra.nmwq64oo8q8mN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, >>>>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: >>>>>> Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that a lot of software stopped working between 10.6 and 10.7 >>>>>>> because of the removal of Rosetta from OS X, but, pray tell, what >>>>>>> were the disastrous effects of going from 10.9 to 10.10? I just >>>>>>> googled for "Mac OS X Yosemite software compatibility" and saw very >>>>>>> few reports of problems, most probably from the early days of the >>>>>>> release. Or are you just indulging in hyperbole? >>>>>> >>>>>> Erilar skipped 10.7, 10.8 and 10.9. She persists in blaming Yosemite for >>>>>> being unable to run abandoned PowerPC applications (e.g. AppleWorks and >>>>>> Color It!) despite being told repeatedly that the same applications >>>>>> would have also not worked on the three preceding major OS X versions. >>>>> >>>>> Wow, yeah, it was a huge discussion point when 10.7 was announced and >>>>> everyone realized that it wouldn't include Rosetta. It was thanks to >>>>> that discussion that I immediately went out and bought a new iMac with >>>>> 10.6, which I'm still using. I can't believe that anyone who reads this >>>>> group regularly could have missed that major change in OS X. As you say, >>>>> those software issues have zero to do with Yosemite. >>>> >>>> It has more to do with hard-headed rejection of anything new. ; ) >>> >>> I simply see no reason to upgrade when my mid-2007 iMac still works, >>> does what I need, and likewise my old software :-) >> >> Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. > > Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) Space. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 09:14 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1m98plg.169sqvonlhdkcN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #31127 |
Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: [snip] > >> Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. > > > > Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) > > Space. Meaning? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 00:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <655778841461463020.394274drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #31130 |
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > [snip] >>>> Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. >>> >>> Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) >> >> Space. > > Meaning? I was running low on memory even with a lot stored in a data file on my TimeCapsule. I was informed that installing a larger hard drive in that laptop was a bad idea anyway. It would not let me partition it and put something newer in half because the laptop itself was too old. Hence the oldest possible new laptop with everything migrated to the new one where some software would work or be convertible, the addition of LibreOffice, and the old laptop left intact. I have been deleting some programs from the latter once I was sure they DID work on the new one, even if in what I consider a rather inferior manner, thus freeing up memory on the old one. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 20:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <160820152030360904%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #31133 |
In article <655778841461463020.394274drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>>> Erilar *did* upgrade yet refuses to adjust to any changes. > >>> > >>> Well, then why'd they upgrade? :-) > >> > >> Space. > > > > Meaning? > > I was running low on memory even with a lot stored in a data file on my > TimeCapsule. I was informed that installing a larger hard drive in that > laptop was a bad idea anyway. that depends what you mean by bad. a larger hard drive will work fine (and an ssd will be a nice speed boost) but it might not make financial sense to put money into an old laptop. > It would not let me partition it and put > something newer in half because the laptop itself was too old. nonsense.
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