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Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS?

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First post2015-08-08 18:08 +0000
Last post2015-08-09 09:13 -0400
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  Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 18:08 +0000
    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-08 14:30 -0400
      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 19:10 +0000
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-08 19:25 +0000
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-08 15:37 -0400
          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-08 21:45 +0100
          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 17:17 -0500
            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:41 -0600
              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-09 14:11 +0000
                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-09 10:20 -0400
                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 15:16 +0000
                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-09 20:09 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:32 +0100
                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:36 -0400
                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:37 +0100
                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 17:41 -0400
                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-09 22:48 +0100
                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 22:19 +0000
                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 08:38 +0100
                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-08-10 10:28 +0100
                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 11:00 +0100
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-10 10:26 +0000
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-10 19:07 +0000
                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 15:47 -0400
                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-11 20:08 +0000
                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-11 18:14 -0400
                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-12 16:54 +0000
                                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-12 18:32 +0100
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-13 01:06 +0000
                                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-13 09:19 +1200
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-13 14:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 15:16 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 06:00 +1200
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 18:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 10:57 +1200
                                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-14 13:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
                                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-16 09:14 +1200
                                                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 00:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:30 -0400
                                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-17 13:27 +1200
                                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 13:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-19 21:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 13:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-18 06:22 +1200
                                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-18 16:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:40 +0000
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-14 13:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:38 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-18 15:04 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-19 16:16 +0000
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-20 20:07 +0000
                                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 09:36 -0400
                                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-23 23:06 -0500
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-14 12:13 +1200
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 03:32 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-14 23:56 +1200
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 13:46 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 16:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-08-15 23:23 +1200
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-15 04:39 -0700
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-15 17:37 +0000
                                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-17 13:20 -0400
                                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-15 21:06 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-14 12:52 -0400
                                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 19:32 +0000
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-14 03:37 +0000
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-14 01:51 +0000
                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-12 14:36 +0000
                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-13 18:44 +0000
                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 15:27 -0400
                                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 19:37 +0000
                                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 15:54 -0400
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-13 20:09 +0000
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-13 16:34 -0400
                                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-15 22:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-17 00:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-14 10:57 +1200
                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 13:40 +0000
                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-10 15:33 +0000
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:47 +0000
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-10 08:51 -0700
                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 17:28 +0000
                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 13:33 -0400
                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 17:53 +0100
                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:36 +0000
                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 08:02 -0400
                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 15:42 +0000
                                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 11:57 -0400
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 16:14 +0000
                                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-08-10 09:43 -0700
                                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-10 12:55 -0400
                                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 17:07 +0000
                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 04:08 +0000
                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-08-09 18:53 -0500
                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 00:00 +0000
                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Dedomen <avdija@eeepc.link.ba> - 2015-08-10 14:09 +0200
                            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-10 14:18 -0400
                              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 18:53 +0000
                                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-08-10 21:25 +0100
                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-10 20:56 +0000
                                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-10 18:47 -0400
                                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-10 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 12:23 -0400
                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-09 23:13 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 23:32 +0000
                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 20:50 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-08-10 04:12 +0000
                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 21:03 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Dedomen <avdija@eeepc.link.ba> - 2015-08-10 14:07 +0200
                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-10 20:52 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-08-10 19:07 +0000
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-08 18:17 -0400
          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-08 22:25 -0500
            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-08 22:32 -0700
              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:22 -0400
                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-09 13:06 -0700
                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 17:33 -0400
                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-08-10 09:15 -0700
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-10 14:22 -0400
                Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-08-10 16:23 -0700
                  Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-11 12:00 -0400
                    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-12 01:08 +0000
                      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-11 22:49 -0400
                        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-08-12 17:47 +0000
                          Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-13 21:44 -0400
            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-08-09 01:44 -0400
              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-08-09 15:15 +0000
            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:18 -0400
            Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 22:41 -0400
              Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-09 22:18 -0500
    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-09 16:36 +1200
      Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-08-09 19:27 -0500
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-09 22:41 -0400
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-08-10 17:29 +1200
        Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-08-10 18:27 +0000
    Re: Why won't Apple update apps w/o updating the OS? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-08-09 09:13 -0400

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#31128

FromErilar <drache@notchibardun.net>
Date2015-08-15 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<1841921745461362171.168460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#31094
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-08-13, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <d349vcFfmpcU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nobody forced you to upgrade your operating system. If doing so requires
>>> you to update third-party software, blame yourself - not the operating
>>> system.
>> 
>> she got a new computer so she didn't have much choice there.
> 
> But she could have purchased an older model instead. It's not like she
> isn't in full control of her situation.

It IS an "older model". Just not enough older.  I would "up"grade if I
could find a program with the capability of my old ones.  So far every
suggestion has been for something with half that capability.

-- 
biblioholic medievalist

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#31131

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-15 22:31 +0000
Message-ID<d39stlFs9t3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31128
On 2015-08-15, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-08-13, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <d349vcFfmpcU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nobody forced you to upgrade your operating system. If doing so requires
>>>> you to update third-party software, blame yourself - not the operating
>>>> system.
>>> 
>>> she got a new computer so she didn't have much choice there.
>> 
>> But she could have purchased an older model instead. It's not like she
>> isn't in full control of her situation.
>
> It IS an "older model". Just not enough older.  I would "up"grade if I
> could find a program with the capability of my old ones.  So far every
> suggestion has been for something with half that capability.

I seriously doubt that.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#31132

FromErilar <drache@notchibardun.net>
Date2015-08-17 00:23 +0000
Message-ID<1755578749461463524.338404drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#31131
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-08-15, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-13, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <d349vcFfmpcU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Nobody forced you to upgrade your operating system. If doing so requires
>>>>> you to update third-party software, blame yourself - not the operating
>>>>> system.
>>>> 
>>>> she got a new computer so she didn't have much choice there.
>>> 
>>> But she could have purchased an older model instead. It's not like she
>>> isn't in full control of her situation.
>> 
>> It IS an "older model". Just not enough older.  I would "up"grade if I
>> could find a program with the capability of my old ones.  So far every
>> suggestion has been for something with half that capability.
> 
> I seriously doubt that.

Learning curve or no learning curve, the programs I have looked at or tried
so far will only edit one foto.  Using Pages to make actual pages with
several of these and text of my choice is much more work for an inferior
product than I can produce with my current single program.  

-- 
biblioholic medievalist

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#31097

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2015-08-14 10:57 +1200
Message-ID<1m954xl.1axw9bm1grxim8N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#31093
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <d349vcFfmpcU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Nobody forced you to upgrade your operating system. If doing so requires
> > you to update third-party software, blame yourself - not the operating
> > system.
> 
> she got a new computer so she didn't have much choice there.

Well OS X 10.6 runs in virtualisation. So she could have got her nice
new Mac with plenty of speed and RAM to run the older OS as a virtual
machine and run the old software inside it. One can do this with the
free VirtualBox, so it would have cost her nothing.
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#31034

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-08-10 13:40 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmshagm.2in6.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#31025
In message <100820150838301492%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>>On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
>>> better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
>>> for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
>>
>>Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>>titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>>here, folks.

> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was
> *what*, precisely?

The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.

<http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>

BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.

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#31040

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-08-10 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<mqag86$9j2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#31034
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:40:03 +0000, Lewis wrote:

> In message <100820150838301492%timstreater@greenbee.net>
>   Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>>>On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
>>>> better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
>>>> for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
>>>
>>>Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>>>titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>>>here, folks.
> 
>> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was
>> *what*, precisely?
> 
> The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
> of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
> that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.
> 
> <http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>
> 
> BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.

Did not see one iMac in this whole presentation!  Looks like they are 
pitching strictly to laptops/tablets for swiping.  I thought that they 
had iOS for that.

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#31043

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-10 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<d2rvd5FadiaU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31040
On 2015-08-10, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:40:03 +0000, Lewis wrote:
>> 
>> The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
>> of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
>> that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.
>> 
>> <http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>
>> 
>> BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.
>
> Did not see one iMac in this whole presentation!  Looks like they are 
> pitching strictly to laptops/tablets for swiping.  I thought that they 
> had iOS for that.

Did the IQ level in here just drop precipitately or something?

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#31044

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-08-10 08:51 -0700
Message-ID<100820150851268312%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#31040
In article <mqag86$9j2$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> > The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
> > of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
> > that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.
> > 
> > <http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>
> > 
> > BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.
> 
> Did not see one iMac in this whole presentation!  Looks like they are 
> pitching strictly to laptops/tablets for swiping. 

so?  If it works on a laptop Mac, it also works on a desktop Mac.  I'm
using El Capitan on a 27" iMac.

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#31052

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-08-10 17:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmshnt9.2lpl.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#31044
In message <100820150851268312%michelle@michelle.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <mqag86$9j2$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

>> > The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
>> > of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
>> > that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.
>> > 
>> > <http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>
>> > 
>> > BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.
>> 
>> Did not see one iMac in this whole presentation!  Looks like they are 
>> pitching strictly to laptops/tablets for swiping. 

> so?  If it works on a laptop Mac, it also works on a desktop Mac.  I'm
> using El Capitan on a 27" iMac.

Not to mention that the majority of their sales are laptops.

-- 
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little way past them into the impossible.

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#31053

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-10 13:33 -0400
Message-ID<100820151333385941%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#31052
In article <slrnmshnt9.2lpl.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> > The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
> >> > of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
> >> > that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.
> >> > 
> >> > <http://www.apple.com/osx/elcapitan-preview/>
> >> > 
> >> > BTW, that's not en exhaustive list either.
> >> 
> >> Did not see one iMac in this whole presentation!  Looks like they are 
> >> pitching strictly to laptops/tablets for swiping. 
> 
> > so?  If it works on a laptop Mac, it also works on a desktop Mac.  I'm
> > using El Capitan on a 27" iMac.
> 
> Not to mention that the majority of their sales are laptops.

80% or so

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#31049

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2015-08-10 17:53 +0100
Message-ID<100820151753462222%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#31034
In article <slrnmshagm.2in6.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <100820150838301492%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>>On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
>>>> better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
>>>> for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
>>>
>>>Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>>>titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>>>here, folks.
>
>> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was
>> *what*, precisely?
>
>The point is you are hijacking a thread that was not about "the point"
>of El Cap in which someone mentioned a cool feature and are pretending
>that was an exhaustive list of ElCap features.

<raspberry>

Rubbish. The thread was already OT.

-- 
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those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf

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#31041

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-10 15:36 +0000
Message-ID<d2runsFadiaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31025
On 2015-08-10, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
>>> better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
>>> for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
>>
>>Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>>titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>>here, folks.
>
> My point exactly. Nothing new to see here. So the point of El Cap was
> *what*, precisely?

You have got to be kidding me.

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#31029

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-10 08:02 -0400
Message-ID<55c892d2$0$1700$c3e8da3$e408f015@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#31010
In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >
> > While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
> > better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
> > for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
> 
> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
> here, folks.

Remember the Super Clock? BTW, are you affiliated with the 
scientologists? You know "I paid a lot of money for this religion, it 
must be the one true one."
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#31042

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-10 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<d2rv2oFadiaU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31029
On 2015-08-10, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <d2q1vpFqm6vU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-09, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
>> > better than Mouse Locator. Seems to me Apple is poking around looking
>> > for minor improvements they can try to sell as great leaps forward.
>> 
>> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>> here, folks.
>
> Remember the Super Clock?

It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:

<https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-mac/>

> BTW, are you affiliated with the scientologists? You know "I paid a
> lot of money for this religion, it must be the one true one."

No. 

My turn: Are you affiliated with the North American Man/Boy Love
Association? You know, "those little boys on the playground are just
begging for sexy time with me"?

This is a fun game! : )

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#31045

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-10 11:57 -0400
Message-ID<100820151157581542%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#31042
In article <d2rv2oFadiaU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
> >> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
> >> here, folks.
> >
> > Remember the Super Clock?
> 
> It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:
> 
> <https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-mac/>

it was an init that put a clock in the menubar. 

apple added that feature in system 7.5.

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#31046

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-10 16:14 +0000
Message-ID<d2s0v5FadiaU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31045
On 2015-08-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <d2rv2oFadiaU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>> >> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>> >> here, folks.
>> >
>> > Remember the Super Clock?
>> 
>> It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:
>> 
>> <https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-mac/>
>
> it was an init that put a clock in the menubar. 
>
> apple added that feature in system 7.5.

Ah, so he's agreeing with me? Okay. Strange way of showing it. : )

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#31048

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2015-08-10 09:43 -0700
Message-ID<100820150943185032%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#31045
In article <100820151157581542%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> > >> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
> > >> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
> > >> here, folks.
> > >
> > > Remember the Super Clock?
> > 
> > It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:
> > 
> >
> > <https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-mac/>
> > 
> 
> it was an init that put a clock in the menubar. 
> 
> apple added that feature in system 7.5.

Apple actually bought it from the shareware developer who wrote it. 
The original had an alarm-clock feature that Apple removed.  I don't
know why they removed it.

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#31050

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-10 12:55 -0400
Message-ID<100820151255479662%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#31048
In article <100820150943185032%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > >> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
> > > >> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
> > > >> here, folks.
> > > >
> > > > Remember the Super Clock?
> > > 
> > > It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:
> > > 
> > >
> > > <https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-ma
> > > c/>
> > > 
> > 
> > it was an init that put a clock in the menubar. 
> > 
> > apple added that feature in system 7.5.
> 
> Apple actually bought it from the shareware developer who wrote it. 
> The original had an alarm-clock feature that Apple removed.  I don't
> know why they removed it.

<http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/superclock-404>

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#31051

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-08-10 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<d2s435FadiaU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#31050
On 2015-08-10, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <100820150943185032%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner
><michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> > > >> Oh, please. Apple's been incorporating ideas from various software
>> > > >> titles into the operating system from the start. Nothing new to see
>> > > >> here, folks.
>> > > >
>> > > > Remember the Super Clock?
>> > > 
>> > > It rings a bell, but not really, sorry. Are you referring to this guy?:
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > > <https://www.maczot.com/discuss/2007/06/05/meridian-the-super-clock-for-ma
>> > > c/>
>> > > 
>> > 
>> > it was an init that put a clock in the menubar. 
>> > 
>> > apple added that feature in system 7.5.
>> 
>> Apple actually bought it from the shareware developer who wrote it. 
>> The original had an alarm-clock feature that Apple removed.  I don't
>> know why they removed it.
>
><http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/superclock-404>

Oh yeah, that does look familiar. : )

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#31021

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-08-10 04:08 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmsg90l.2gov.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#31009
In message <090820152248595884%timstreater@greenbee.net> 
  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <090820151741362311%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>In article <090820152237254246%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
>><timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>>> >> >Shake mouse is very cool. I can finally set my mouse to default size.
>>> >> 
>>> >> What /are/ you talking about?
>>> >
>>> >shake mouse is a new feature in el capitan where the cursor gets bigger
>>> >so you don't lose track of where it is.
>>> 
>>> When does it do that? I use Mouse Locator to keep track of mine.
>>
>>when you shake the mouse, thus the name shake mouse.

> Righto, thanks.

> While that's handy I suppose to have built-in, not sure how that is
> better than Mouse Locator.

It is better because it is built in.

> Seems to me Apple is poking around looking for minor improvements they
> can try to sell as great leaps forward.

No one said it was a great leap forward.


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